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Lightest foil set up?

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Created by utcminusfour 2 months ago, 31 Mar 2020
utcminusfour
88 posts
31 Mar 2020 9:54PM
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What brand has the lightest foil set up with wings similar to slingshot infinty wings?

drsurf
NSW, 90 posts
1 Apr 2020 1:53AM
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Try Moses carbon foils. I use and sell them and they feel light to me in comparison with other foils. Everyone else who has a demo of my Moses foils is also impressed by the light weight. See moseshydrofoil.com/
They're also great performing foils to use as well, with good interchangeability and a big range of types from kite to surf to windsurf. You can have a mast fuselage setup that you can stick a whole range of wings and stabilisers on to get the performance that suits you.
I think Slingshot has some association with Moses as well selling the Moses foils rebranded as Slingshot models.

There is one problem however. Once you've tried a light foil setup you won't like anything that's heavier ...

utcminusfour
88 posts
1 Apr 2020 12:37AM
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Thanks drdurf!
I am a windfoiler riding a Mosses set up right now and love the ride. Seriously it is incredible! I also have a Horue vini that is much lighter because it is a one piece carbon/cored mast and fuse. I much prefer the ride of the Mosses however, the mast is solid carbon, the fuse is a separate piece in metal, the pedestal mount is a separate heavy adaptor so overall I know it can be lighter. I want to get the weight out to make the whole kit easier to launch and retrieve. I have seen videos of folks windfoiling using Gofoils or Neilpryde glide foils on SUP style boards. This is the direction I want to try next but I want a lighter foil. Anyone one on the kite side have any suggestions?

Gorgo
VIC, 4363 posts
1 Apr 2020 7:44AM
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J Shapes Feather light and tough as nails.

I have 500 hours on my current kit. I wouldn't ride anything else.

www.jshapes.com/

horey69
QLD, 337 posts
1 Apr 2020 9:01AM
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Slingshot Micro DC 3"6' and lift carbon foil. Light as


eddiemorgs
NT, 371 posts
1 Apr 2020 2:04PM
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Gorgo said..
J Shapes Feather light and tough as nails.

I have 500 hours on my current kit. I wouldn't ride anything else.

www.jshapes.com/


+ one

My 120 Freeride board and cruzer foil weigh around 5.65kg .

Its still the by far most fun foil I have ridden .

Strong , light , moderately quick in a straight line and slow enough , loose and carvey in swell and waves

snalberski
WA, 706 posts
1 Apr 2020 12:58PM
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+1 for JShapes lightness and strength. I have done a direct weight comparison between my JShapes and a friend of mines Moses setup. Both rigs pretty identical in board size (120), wing size and mast length.
It was only a hand judgment on the beach
but the JShapes felt lighter, but not by much. Probably most high end freeride rigs will be similar give or take a couple of hundred grams... the big difference is noticed when you go from non carbon to all carbon fibre

Gorgo
VIC, 4363 posts
1 Apr 2020 5:20PM
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I just weighed mine and it's 6.3kg.

120 Freeride board 3.36
V2 95cm mast 1.53
Cruzer foil 1.41

My 120 board was a custom with extra layers of glass on the rails. The Cruzer foil has had a few coats of paint over the past couple of years as I touch up scratches and chips to the edges.

I wouldn't be surprised if the board had a little water inside it. There's no obvious dings but with over 500 hours there's got to be some wear and tear somewhere. Possibly the strap screw holes or micro cracks under the deck pad.

snalberski
WA, 706 posts
1 Apr 2020 3:20PM
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Gorgo said..
I just weighed mine and it's 6.3kg.

120 Freeride board 3.36
V2 95cm mast 1.53
Cruzer foil 1.41

My 120 board was a custom with extra layers of glass on the rails. The Cruzer foil has had a few coats of paint over the past couple of years as I touch up scratches and chips to the edges.

I wouldn't be surprised if the board had a little water inside it. There's no obvious dings but with over 500 hours there's got to be some wear and tear somewhere. Possibly the strap screw holes or micro cracks under the deck pad.


Yeah I just weighed mine which is the same but with freeride wing... 6.6kg but that is with a wet deck pad and 3 wet straps. Weighed with a luggage weigher which likely has limited accuracy . FOI the board by itself with wet straps and pad was 3.8kg and I confident its watertight. 3 wet straps and the water in the deck pad would have to be at least 0.5kg and probably more I reckon. I'll weigh it again when the straps and pad have dried out. The board dry without straps is listed at 2.8kg +/- 5%. With extra layers of course it will be marginally more.

warwickl
NSW, 1410 posts
1 Apr 2020 6:34PM
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This nice 1.1m x 45cm carbon bueaty with Moses carbon rig less than 5.5kg.
I'll check accuracy tomorrow.

Livit
WA, 478 posts
2 Apr 2020 6:22PM
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Ketos have a reputation of being superlight. On the + side, they have a large variety of wings to choose from. Might be difficult to get one over here though.

AquaPlow
QLD, 905 posts
2 Apr 2020 9:37PM
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Would love to get a lighter mast for the SS gear I have, if I went up to 90cms I reckon my board would sink (130 cms) the change from 60 to 70 cms stopped the imaginary Plimsoll line being visible - it hugs the water..
Love the wing but the masts better target Windsurfing or Supping neither using the low volume small boards.
If I repurposed my current mast as a medieval sword and it hit someone (need to go to do weights) = ER visit or the mortuary they are solid and heavy.
Cheers
AP

snalberski
WA, 706 posts
3 Apr 2020 8:33AM
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AquaPlow said..
Would love to get a lighter mast for the SS gear I have, if I went up to 90cms I reckon my board would sink (130 cms) the change from 60 to 70 cms stopped the imaginary Plimsoll line being visible - it hugs the water..
Love the wing but the masts better target Windsurfing or Supping neither using the low volume small boards.
If I repurposed my current mast as a medieval sword and it hit someone (need to go to do weights) = ER visit or the mortuary they are solid and heavy.
Cheers
AP



Hehe. This season 2 of the most experienced advanced riders at my local learnt to foilboard. Both went with the entry level Duotone with ali mast, plastic wing and plywood board. Both of their jaws completely dropped when I invited them to compare the weight of their rig to mine.

KBGhost
QLD, 90 posts
6 Apr 2020 12:37PM
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I just weighed my awesome foils and had some interesting results:

Axis tray 94 with 75cm alloy mast & 545 carbon wing

Came in at 5.8kg.

CarbonCo Nang 100 with footstraps, Moses 91cm carbon mast & 590 wing....

Came in at 5.8kgs as well



PS KITE AND FOIL COMPANIES... POST YOUR WEIGHTS!!



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