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Are we allowed to sail

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Created by Offthegrid 2 months ago, 25 Mar 2020
shaggybaxter
QLD, 2056 posts
30 Mar 2020 9:10AM
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I've just finished testing a new bunch of thermal CCTV cameras that detect fevers, and the good news is the tech works really well, accurate to within 0.5 deg C. I've ordered hand held and tripod mounted systems, the handhelds need a human holding them where the tripod system is automated. I'm down to two weeks now before the order arrives.
I'm reaching out to the local community to offer testing free of charge. I've got a few friends in the medical profession who are scared witless yet still fronting up every day. Compared to that sacrifice this seems pretty pathetic, but if it's a numbers game, every little bit helps.
Or at least that's what I'm telling myself!

Bundeenabuoy
NSW, 847 posts
30 Mar 2020 5:26PM
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shaggybaxter said..
I've just finished testing a new bunch of thermal CCTV cameras that detect fevers, and the good news is the tech works really well, accurate to within 0.5 deg C. I've ordered hand held and tripod mounted systems, the handhelds need a human holding them where the tripod system is automated. I'm down to two weeks now before the order arrives.
I'm reaching out to the local community to offer testing free of charge. I've got a few friends in the medical profession who are scared witless yet still fronting up every day. Compared to that sacrifice this seems pretty pathetic, but if it's a numbers game, every little bit helps.
Or at least that's what I'm telling myself!


Well done Shaggy

cisco
QLD, 11724 posts
30 Mar 2020 10:11PM
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My two nearest neighbours to my mooring have left. Maybe just down the river or maybe further afield.

A well found and supplied yacht sounds like a perfect way to isolate to me.

2bish
TAS, 468 posts
31 Mar 2020 10:35AM
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In Tasmania, YES!!

"Recreational boating is still allowed as long as the two-person limit or immediate family rules are applied".

Down towards the bottom of the page at: www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-31/new-coronavirus-spot-checks-in-force-in-tasmania/12103584

Cav30
NSW, 119 posts
31 Mar 2020 3:21PM
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As sailing is considered a sport, is it then allowed as exercise? If we stick to the 2 person limit etc. My boat is ready to be collected from across the harbour and ideally id like to put it back on its mooring.

Donk107
TAS, 2381 posts
31 Mar 2020 4:51PM
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2bish said..
In Tasmania, YES!!

"Recreational boating is still allowed as long as the two-person limit or immediate family rules are applied".

Down towards the bottom of the page at: www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-31/new-coronavirus-spot-checks-in-force-in-tasmania/12103584



Hi 2bish

Recreational boating is still allowed if it is deemed essential, as long as the two-person limit or immediate family rules are applied.

it does say thou as long as it is deemed essential so you might have to make a bit of a case for yourself if questioned

Regards Donk

Ramona
NSW, 5574 posts
31 Mar 2020 5:27PM
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I'm still sailing and when I'm not sailing I'm often out at the mooring or fishing. By myself and in a country town it's easy to be isolated. The only problem I have encountered was today back at the boat ramp where I had to wait to avoid the crowd of 3 people!

AzureF305
NSW, 205 posts
31 Mar 2020 7:12PM
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Been at my fave spot in Sydney Harbour for the last 4 days - just got asked this by a neighbouring boatie in the bay - has anyone heard anything about this??

...one of my friends just said that it's a $1000 fine for being on your boat during the covid lockdown. Have you heard / seen anything???

Is this a rumour? or can someone verify it.

woko
NSW, 644 posts
31 Mar 2020 7:30PM
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I'd say thats rumour, in nsw you are allowed to leave your home for essential supplies, doc appointments, work and exercise, how could being on your boat be infringing so long as your not flaunting social gathering criteria. I'd class being on your boat as exercise. Surely the authorities have more important issues to deal with like getting ruff sleepers indoors

Jethrow
NSW, 866 posts
31 Mar 2020 7:59PM
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Well as of last night you'd be wrong Woko.

Things like SUPing, kayaking and windsurfing have been said to be recreational activities and thus not essential activities. You'd have NO chance of calling staying on your boat as exercise. and it's an $11,000 fine now. Because Waterways now has nothing to do they'll be looking for boaties flaunting the rules all the while the bunches of people are out and about running in pairs and buying takeaway coffies.

I can post a Facebook ruling from Australian Sailing but many won't be able to see it.

Jethrow
NSW, 866 posts
31 Mar 2020 8:06PM
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Nup, I can't post the text here. It just gets put in a multiple quotes and it unreadable

See this... www.facebook.com/AustSailNSWACT/

Jode5
QLD, 775 posts
31 Mar 2020 7:40PM
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In Queensland, there is no recreational boating, but you are allowed to use you boat for fishing for food. Looks like we will need to troll a line while sailing

fishmonkey
NSW, 483 posts
31 Mar 2020 9:06PM
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so what the hell counts as "exercise" then? are we all supposed to jog around the block?

SandS
VIC, 5866 posts
31 Mar 2020 9:10PM
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today heard a 2nd hand description of police in vic telling recreational fishers to go back to the shore

FabulousPhill
VIC, 68 posts
31 Mar 2020 9:18PM
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The Victorian regulations.
transportsafety.vic.gov.au/maritime-safety/newsroom/boating-covid-message
Quote" To be clear, the Premier has described exercise as 'a walk round the block or a bike ride to stretch your legs and get some fresh air'. This does not include recreational boating."
So we all stay at home and get bored by TV, because sailing is too elitist?

2bish
TAS, 468 posts
31 Mar 2020 9:21PM
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Donk107 said..

2bish said..
In Tasmania, YES!!

"Recreational boating is still allowed as long as the two-person limit or immediate family rules are applied".

Down towards the bottom of the page at: www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-31/new-coronavirus-spot-checks-in-force-in-tasmania/12103584




Hi 2bish

Recreational boating is still allowed if it is deemed essential, as long as the two-person limit or immediate family rules are applied.

it does say thou as long as it is deemed essential so you might have to make a bit of a case for yourself if questioned

Regards Donk


Hi Don, I was assuming the exercise aspect would make it possible as long as the two person/immediate family stipulation is observed. What is that ABC statement about then?

SandS
VIC, 5866 posts
31 Mar 2020 9:27PM
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I think the thoughts behind the sailing /boating bans are, in case of need to rescue , this then puts rescue teams at risk while being too close in the rescue boat ect .

nswsailor
NSW, 1312 posts
31 Mar 2020 9:39PM
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In Queensland this was said 7 hours ago....

"According to Transport Minister Mark Bailey, those using boats for essential travel to work or to get items from the shop, or those fishing to put food on the table for their families can still do so."

Chris 249
NSW, 2451 posts
31 Mar 2020 10:16PM
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How many fishos can actually justify using their boat to get a feed, instead of just going to the shops?

2bish
TAS, 468 posts
31 Mar 2020 10:22PM
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Official Covid-19 Recreational Boating Guidlines for Tasmania: www.mast.tas.gov.au/covid-19-recreational-boating-guidelines/?fbclid=IwAR2Ob0ecO9SjRmfhNckgdMr-HgEy1Rv_KE73nlec3l5ijJQ98DVl0KqTtV4

LooseChange
NSW, 2067 posts
31 Mar 2020 11:01PM
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In NSW the latest blurb from Gladys lists 16 reasons you can leave your home, anything other than the 16 listed could get you a $1000 fine.

1. You're obtaining food or other goods or services for the personal needs of the household or other household purposes (including for pets) and for vulnerable persons.

2. You can't work from home and are traveling for the purposes of your occupation.

3. You're providing assistance or personal care to a vulnerable person.

4. Childcare needs to be attended to - including picking up and dropping off kids.

5. You're undergoing education and need to travel to a learning facility.

6. Exercise is being undertaken.

7. You're obtaining medical supplies or fulfilling a carer's responsibilities.

8. You're attending a wedding or a funeral.

9. You're donating blood.

10. Being outside allows you to fulfil legal obligations.

11. Leaving your home is the only way you can access social, domestic violence, employment, mental health and or services provided to victims.

12. You're moving house or moving business.

13. A child who does not live in the same home as their parents or siblings continuing existing arrangements for access to, and contact between, parents and children or siblings.

14. You're a priest, a minister of religion or a member of a religious order and you're going to a place or worship or you're providing pastoral care to another person.

15. Being outside allows you to avoid illness or injury.

16. You're leaving for compassionate reasons or an emergency.

Number 15 surely allows you to be on your boat if you believe that it's safer there than in the house

Sectorsteve
QLD, 2195 posts
31 Mar 2020 11:45PM
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fishmonkey said..
so what the hell counts as "exercise" then? are we all supposed to jog around the block?


Yep. You've lost your rights which was the goal. Pandemic or not.

Donk107
TAS, 2381 posts
1 Apr 2020 1:22AM
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Hi 2bish

There are those two words that are a bit of a worry

Deemed essential

Regards Don

woko
NSW, 644 posts
1 Apr 2020 2:23AM
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Jethrow said..
Nup, I can't post the text here. It just gets put in a multiple quotes and it unreadable

See this... www.facebook.com/AustSailNSWACT/


That's it in a nutshell then no sailing. Obviously if your in transit and couldn't get to your home port you will have to stay aboard your vessel as the van parks and motels are out of action. Tough times

claverton
NSW, 163 posts
1 Apr 2020 3:36AM
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Strict conditions in NSW ... I wonder if rowing out to your boat on its mooring could be considered as valid exercise? Sounds reasonable to me. Not sure if the cops would buy it though.

claverton
NSW, 163 posts
1 Apr 2020 3:36AM
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Strict conditions in NSW ... I wonder if rowing out to your boat on its mooring could be considered as valid exercise? Sounds reasonable to me. Not sure if the cops would buy it though.

Bundeenabuoy
NSW, 847 posts
1 Apr 2020 4:42AM
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claverton said..
Strict conditions in NSW ... I wonder if rowing out to your boat on its mooring could be considered as valid exercise? Sounds reasonable to me. Not sure if the cops would buy it though.



Someone in our local general store now has the virus.
We had a home deliver last Friday.
I unpacked all items and washed everything I could with dishwashing liquid and then rinsed a couple of times.
We placed the hot chicken in a new bag.
I will use disposable gloves and will improve my system next Friday.
My wife and I don't go out, but we have our daughter visiting who runs any absolute errands.
She has been on holidays but heads back to work in a country hospital today.
Do all the right things, be safe and the great majority of us will be fine.

If you walk, paddle and sail by yourself that is allowable exercise in my opinion.
Yesterday was beautiful on the water.

claverton
NSW, 163 posts
1 Apr 2020 5:27AM
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Good vid here showing the correct use of a face mask and disposable gloves
www.theguardian.com/world/video/2020/mar/31/how-to-correctly-wear-your-coronavirus-face-mask-and-gloves-video

Also, if you have a sewing machine, good vid here showing an easy simple design for making your own DIY face mask

jbarnes85
NSW, 76 posts
1 Apr 2020 8:28AM
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The below article from ABC News about whether surfing is allowed says:
"The official advice from NSW Health is that surfing is not banned, but it remains a grey area.A statement provided to the ABC said "surfing, like any other recreational activity or gathering . should not be done in any more than groups of two with the rules of 1.5 metres social distancing being followed at all times"."

I dont understand why surfing and kite surfing and other sports would be allowed yet going for a sail with my wife would not be. These people still injure themselves and can need rescuing (I do both).

www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-31/is-surfing-allowed-under-coronavirus-social-gathering-rules/12103614

Guitz
VIC, 474 posts
1 Apr 2020 11:52AM
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To my mind, a blanket rule can not cover all situations it is supposed to address. Some common sense is needed. I have heard in an interview of a senior police officer when answering multiple queries that the Police will be using discretion in the application of all these rules designed to inhibit the spread of the virus. An essential question each of us has to ask ourselves regarding any activity is, if and how might the activity cause the possible spread of the virus. So busy boat ramps on a fine day are a problem. A boat on a mooring and a solitary oarsman not a problem. A crowded bondi beach is a big problem, a relatively remote surf break with a few surfers enjoying the wave, not a problem.
A bunch of people on the marina pontoon having a beer or chardonnay, a problem. One boat owner on his pat malone checking the boat or doing a bit of maintenance, no problem. For the past few weeks this has been my guide.
Now however as we are in stage 3 it is simply if you can stay at home you must stay at home. No gatherings more than 2 people as in family etc. Discretion still needs to be applied but it's getting serious and you will be more likely to cop a fine for bad decisions and especially pushing the boundaries of the advice given by the Vic State Govt.



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