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Tesa 4965 18mm wide very strong tape for small sail modifications

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Created by r13 > 9 months ago, 25 Feb 2021
r13
NSW, 1437 posts
25 Feb 2021 3:56PM
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Am planning to use this to cut down a dacron Etchells jib to 6.25m luff length to use as a no3 jib on 1/4tonner. The leech will simply be cut straight from above the top of the clew patch to the luff, allowing for the 18mm overlap and also a small aluminium headboard rivetted to the top. Insert 2mm nylon leech line. The sail will always be rolled up when not hoisted.

embossingtapesupplies.com.au/crystal-clear-double-sided-tape-tesa-4965-red-liner.html

Technical advice from the above company is that it would be fine - clean the sail with isopropyl alcohol. This tape is a more cost effective type than 3M VHB.

Has anyone done this or similar and had success? I might take the finished sail to a canvas shop to run a line of stitching down it. Sailmakers costs are too much - apologies to them.

Jethrow
NSW, 1226 posts
25 Feb 2021 5:17PM
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and after this experiment you'll find out why sailmakers are "too expensive".

The only area of the sail more heavily loaded than just outside the clew patch is just outside the head patch.

It's your heavy weather jib and you're going to trust a bit of tape. Tape that gets rolled up along the seam so that one edge will be tighter than the other, creating gaps in the tape and drying the tape out.

Please reconsider or at least have another backup option available, because you know it will fail at the worst possible time...

Ramona
NSW, 7421 posts
25 Feb 2021 6:09PM
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I would not tamper with the sail. I used an Etchells jib on my quarter tonner [mast head rigged] and it performed brilliantly. The only problem was returning to the mooring if I had the sail still hanked on. It was the jib with the press stud "hanks". The sail was very stiff resin filled and really caught the wind and would blow the nose down when trying to pick up the mooring. I eventually changed to a Dacron 16 foot skiff jib as the No 3. I removed the wire luff and replaced it with 4 mm Spectra and sewed extensions on to the head and tack to raise it off the deck a bit and give a good angle for the sheets. I used screw-on plastic hanks. It was very successful. The other choice is to pick up an old Kevlar onion bag headsail of eBay and get creative with that sticky back stuff.

r13
NSW, 1437 posts
2 Mar 2021 5:07PM
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Ok thanks for thoughtful responses. Yes the no1 jibs (light and heavy) are Etchells and they suit the boat perfectly. The jib I am looking to cut down has been changed from press stud hanks to piston hanks. Have considered a 16s jib am keeping an eye out. Won't go kevlar at the price point I am looking to sort this jib out it will have delamination already.

Realise the clew and head corners are highest loaded.

Found this article - of course load tests on sail patches in a laboratory are indications only and cannot simulate actual use.

www.practical-sailor.com/sails-rigging-deckgear/sail-repair-tapes-vs-glues

I'd never heard of DrSails - it is available locally. Was aware of 3M 5200 there are numerous web links of it's successful use in sail repairs.

www.deckhardware.com.au/brand/dr-sails/

www.deckhardware.com.au/assets/files/DrSails/DrSails%20Case%20Studies.pdf


Ramona
NSW, 7421 posts
2 Mar 2021 5:48PM
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I'm basically lazy so I just use sticky back on both sides and zig zag sew around the edges.



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