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GOFoil vs Axis Foil

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Created by Filow 1 month ago, 16 Jul 2019
frenchfoiler
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28 Jul 2019 12:53AM
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anders884 said..

Camarillo said..
A Spanish guy showed up on my home beach a few days ago, it was completely , 100% flat and no wind , glassy.

He took his Axis 6'0 board with with an Axis s102 wing and paddled his board into flying at least 10 times....

I had a go on his setup but no chance

But a foil that is easy to get flying in the smallest wave is what I am looking for...and the new Gofoils, the new Axis foils and the Signature Foils seem to be to small for me to do that, and the Gofoil M200 and M280 to draggy ??

The Axis S102 or perhaps the upcoming Neil Pryde XL seem to be the best choice for that to me
My NP Large wing is supposed to be 1612 cm^2 , 1484,7 projected area could be right?

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17xbTGEWSVeRhnYb_4vz_Gmby8UnrDys7Q1iB-6rC6F4/edit?usp=sharing




I am looking for a new wing as well. And want to make it as easy as possible to get going on small waves. Someone mentioned that Armstrong is to come out with a new wing?
Anyway the most cost effective would to get the NP XL wing. But I think in a few months there will be a few good choices
Soon to trade one kidney for the holy grail of getting up on the wing in flat conditions!


Axis 102, super easy to lift.

Camarillo
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28 Jul 2019 1:21AM
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frenchfoiler said..
Axis 102, super easy to lift.

I am considering getting one, but they are expensive in Europe.
All the other big foils I tried (Gofoil M280 and Gong XXL) are much draggier and harder to speed up paddling.
I also like being able to choose from different mast lengths and a very stiff mast is also a must for me.

frenchfoiler
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14 Aug 2019 3:34AM
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Any feedback about the 1000 Axis for dw ?

Any comparison between GL180/210/240 vs Axis 900/1000 ?

Windgenuity
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14 Aug 2019 10:27AM
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Filow said..
Look at the new Naish too


New for 2020 - all new shapes, sizes and Stabs.

- 1050
- 1250
- 1650
- 2000
- 2450

And soon to be released the HA line.
- 1400
- 1800

The 1050 and 1250 are very similar in dims to the M & L, just a little more powerful and smoother.

The 1650 is a beast. Total new feel and very adaptable with the stab.

The 2000 is where DW really starts. On an amazing day you could DW the 1650, but really the 2000 is un real in epic conditions. and it surf's surprisingly well. Excellent for pumping.

The 2450 is a DW beast. This monster will glide fully primed at amazingly slow speeds. If you don;t want to come off the foil on a DW run, then this is the wing. Low speeds around 11-12km/h and peaks 25+km/h. I find it my go to for nearly all conditions for DW.

The HA line are going to spice things up quite a bit for the more advanced rider. Faster and punchier while at the same time more responsive, the HA wings are tricky at first, but a weapon once you've got your head around it. The 1800 has the speed (or faster) of the 1650 with the lift (if not more) of the 2000. They are a little twitchier than the std JET line, so positioning and input are important. But for an advanced rider = epic.

I still think in majority of "real world" DW runs, the 2450 will be the go to wing = realistic and fun!

Regrds,

JB

Scotty Mac
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14 Aug 2019 11:29AM
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frenchfoiler said..

anders884 said..


Camarillo said..
A Spanish guy showed up on my home beach a few days ago, it was completely , 100% flat and no wind , glassy.

He took his Axis 6'0 board with with an Axis s102 wing and paddled his board into flying at least 10 times....

I had a go on his setup but no chance

But a foil that is easy to get flying in the smallest wave is what I am looking for...and the new Gofoils, the new Axis foils and the Signature Foils seem to be to small for me to do that, and the Gofoil M200 and M280 to draggy ??

The Axis S102 or perhaps the upcoming Neil Pryde XL seem to be the best choice for that to me
My NP Large wing is supposed to be 1612 cm^2 , 1484,7 projected area could be right?

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17xbTGEWSVeRhnYb_4vz_Gmby8UnrDys7Q1iB-6rC6F4/edit?usp=sharing





I am looking for a new wing as well. And want to make it as easy as possible to get going on small waves. Someone mentioned that Armstrong is to come out with a new wing?
Anyway the most cost effective would to get the NP XL wing. But I think in a few months there will be a few good choices
Soon to trade one kidney for the holy grail of getting up on the wing in flat conditions!



Axis 102, super easy to lift.


Axis 102, super easy to lift.

Yer Frenchfoiler that depends on your weight, ability and the conditions.

The 102 is also faster than the go foil 280 but doesnt have nearly as much low end lift.

murf
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14 Aug 2019 1:06PM
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frenchfoiler said..
Any feedback about the 1000 Axis for dw ?

Any comparison between GL180/210/240 vs Axis 900/1000 ?


The 1000 Axis is a fast downwind wing. It is hard to get going but once up it has heaps of glide and pump, you still need to be a gun or lucky to get it going in downwind conditions 18/23 knots. It is a little easier then the 900 axis but not by much.

frenchfoiler
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1 hour ago , 23 Aug 2019 2:02PM
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Lateley I've tried some foil in DW, Gong xxl and Takuma 1900 Alu. Compared to Axis those alu mast are way too flexy which make those hard to control but maybe you can get usedd to it ? The wings are heavier also.

The Axis fuselage seems to me way more advanced (everything fits, super smooth, super tight).

Just saying this to show that there is alu and alu. For the overall weight, I guess it has a lot to do with the weight of the wings.

Hdip
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1 hour ago , 23 Aug 2019 2:15PM
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frenchfoiler said..
Lateley I've tried some foil in DW, Gong xxl and Takuma 1900 Alu. Compared to Axis those alu mast are way too flexy which make those hard to control but maybe you can get usedd to it ? The wings are heavier also.

The Axis fuselage seems to me way more advanced (everything fits, super smooth, super tight).

Just saying this to show that there is alu and alu. For the overall weight, I guess it has a lot to do with the weight of the wings.


You gonna try the new "pro" gong wings Frenchfoiler? How'd you like the Takuma LoL? Seems to be pretty well liked, but kind of fragile.

Scotty Mac
SA, 1884 posts
59 minutes ago , 23 Aug 2019 3:47PM
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Frenchfoiler; How you find the Takuma LOL 1900 compared to the axis 102 in terms of lift off? easier, the same or harder?
I hear the new Takuma carbon mast is much stiffer.
Yes the axis is nice and stiff for alu. So is the Go foil 29.5. If you light enough the axis 1000 may work for you? Be too small for me in a DW but I am 90kg.
Hope to try the GL240 on the weekend but not much wind forecast. I will share my thought if I try it.



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