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Jet Assisted Take Off

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Created by juandesooka A week ago, 7 Feb 2019
juandesooka
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7 Feb 2019 3:50AM
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Moving this here to avoid further hijacking of the flooded market thread. Caution: Next Level nerding-out here.

Clarification #1: I am not realistically pursuing this, due to $$$ involved and also pushing the nerd levels too far. Just having fun imagining possibilities. [but if a developer wishes to send me a motor to demo for free, I will commit to that challenge]

Clarification #2: I am not talking about e-foils, where a motor is attached near the wings, allowing you to foil without waves. From what I've heard, those are super heavy and not capable of surfing; so a flat water gimmick. I am focused on maximizing effectiveness of foil surfing.

Scenario: surfing last weekend an old guy cruised by me on a long board without paddling. He had an electric motor on the bottom and was riding back out on his belly to avoid paddling, as a session extender. I'd think the motor on bottom would have a lot of drag but he was able to surf the waves -- though soft foil type waves, not fast down the line stuff. He got maybe 1.5 hours in, I assume until battery ran out. He said he got the motor 3 years ago in San Diego, built by South African company. Cost him $5k (ouch). I think it runs with internal props, like for motorized hobby boats, not with jets.

Possibilities: It got me thinking that having this kind of motor attached to a foil board could potentially allow you to catch a wave without paddling. Then, once you pop up on foil, the motor is out of the water, so no drag. This could allow for smaller boards that are otherwise not easily paddled (e.g., prone foil but with SUP foil range). It could also allow for getting into waves that are not paddle-able (e.g., tow-in unbreaking waves, or downwinders).

Gear: the price tag is obviously prohibitive. Some googling shows there are a whole bunch of super expensive jet surf models out there now. You could easily stick on a foil and have this working tomorrow ... I bet it would work.

There's these "cheapies" ($400-600) on ebay/alibaba ... but max speed 5mph, would that be enough to allow you to take off on a wave? Or if not, maybe it's just way to get more waves in a session when you have that 300m paddle back.
www.ebay.ca/itm/12V-Battery-Driven-Electric-Fin-For-Stand-Up-Paddle-Board-SUP-Surf-AQUA-MARINA/323397736930?hash=item4b4c01d9e2:g:2jMAAOSwZHpbdAgg:rk:21:pf:0

Then there's these motorized hobby boat DIY accessories....motor $100, build your own battery assembly, remote control, etc.

There's the outcome of an hour of google time. Anyone heard of people trying this? Thoughts on if it would work?

[PS follow up thought: I fully get the "just because you can doesn't mean you should" idea. As a lifelong surfer, kiter, Sup, and now foiler, I am really dialed in to the enjoyment of taking pleasure in harnessing these forces of nature, waves, gravity, and wind. So I recognize that using a motor like this may just be distasteful, even if it happened to work great]



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