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New Jimmy Lewis "Flying V" Sup Foil Boards have arrived

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Created by Jimmy Lewis Boards > 9 months ago, 28 Aug 2018
28 Aug 2018 7:03PM
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Instead of me getting on here & sounding like I'm just promoting JL boards, here's a post on the Standup Zone forum of the NEW Jimmy Lewis "Flying V" Sup Foil board....

The board now comes with both Tuttle box & track mounts as well as stepped tail & bevelled rails....

Here's what Sharksupper had to say about his new 6'5"

6'5 x 28.5 x 4.25 "Flying V" 107L according to Marlon, despite that the sticker on it says 115L (a mistake from the factory I'm told). This example is 15.5lbs in carbon (7kg).
This is the smallest version of this production model. Here are all the sizes Marlon listed:
6'5"x28.5"x4.25" (107L)
6'11"x29"x4.3" (122L)
7'5"x30"x4.7" (143L)
7'11"x31"x5" (168.6L)
The red has a pretty metal flake in it.
First session done. Wow, my observations here are going to be more about what it's like to ride a small-ish 6'5@107L foil specific SUP vs a larger (8'5@115L) converted surf SUP. This is a whole new category of board for me so I really can't provide any feedback on how it compares to other similarly shaped/sized foil specific boards.

I'm around 180-ish right now with a wet full wetsuit on (cold water here).

Conditions weren't the super best, but ok, glassy, 5-6ft @ 8-9sec, so a bit crunchy. Knee to chest high, mostly not breaking, but when they did it was steep. Not a tone of residual energy in the waves after breaking. I had the maliko 200 on with track adapter, so +4" on the mast. I ran it in the middle of the track, but after this session I think I need to move it all the way to the back. On drop-ins I was nearly stepping off the pad on the nose to keep it down.... but once riding my foot was just on or barely in front of the front foot marker on the pad.

I got off to a good start and somehow managed to catch and fly my very first drop-in not knowing the proper foot position yet.

The JL 6'5@107L compared to my converted Naish 8'5@115L:

1. Slower paddling/in-water board speed, probably half!.. or less!
2. Harder to catch waves, I probably caught 1/3 of the waves I normally would get on the larger board. Mostly due to #1 above.
3. Harder to keep the nose down on drop-in. Not sure why, but I really had to lean all my weight on the nose to get it leveled off on drop-in, I guess less leverage than my larger board...?? I had some spectacular crashes where the foil launched me down the wave to the bottom on late drops, got a couple of stings from hitting the water so hard! lol
4. Fantastic stability and float! I am truly amazed, the board is super stable, even feels maybe more stable than my larger board! Feels like it floats just as well @107L as the 115L! Weird!
5. Super light weight, I think the Naish with the massively reinforced foil box install is about 20-22lbs+, the JL is 15.5lbs, that's almost the weight of the foil in savings! Very noticeable carrying it and riding it.
5. Excellent handling both in the water and flying. You can pull a 180 in the water to catch a wave in like half a second! Once flying, the lower weight and swing weight make it SOOOOOO much more maneuverable. I also felt like there was less flex in the foil/mast due to the lower swing/weight.
6. Less glide? I guess with the weight savings it's like not having as much ballast, so I seemed to glide a little less long (no pumping) than with the heavier board. Not a lot, but noticeable.
7. More efficient flying and pumping. Pumping has definitely improved a whole lot! Not only can I pump easier to the wave in front of the one I'm on, but when I turn/carve or do mini-pumps I seem to get a lot out of my effort. I was able to pump half way back out on one ride. On the Naish I have pumped all the wave back out, but definitely not nearly as easily and that was under perfect conditions (good rebound). Today was not good for pumping back out and I was able to make it part way back out and several waves. I did not hit the tail or nose on the water even once while pumping, even aggressively, super cool! This allowed me to pump the foil even when only inches out of the water.
8. JL has the best finish!! The board finish is better than any of my cars! No joking. It's a real shame to see it get scuffed from paddling and handling.
9. It's harder to ride, less stable, but way more maneuverable.
10. I think I will still ride the Naish when the waves are bigger or the water is choppier. You need good board speed to catch bigger waves before they break, and paddling a tiny board like this in chop is not going to be fun. However, when the waves are good and easier to catch the advantages in handling and pumping are going to be really awesome! There are definitely trade offs with each board.

After a few more session I will try the foot straps it came with. I don't feel like I need them, but I can imagine they will allow even more pumping and stability in turns/etc.

I am stoked on the board, looking forward to learning how to ride it better!







And here's Glenn Cochrane's new 6'5" & his post on Facebook-
Thanks Rob from jimmy Lewis for my new 6'5 sup foil board. All the bells and whistles ,chimed rails, stepped bottom, flashy colour a really great finish.



clappo01
QLD, 2 posts
28 Aug 2018 8:00PM
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What prices are we looking at?

29 Aug 2018 4:22PM
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Hi clappo01,
The new model with all the bells & whistles is from $1995-$2195

Gorgo
VIC, 4911 posts
29 Aug 2018 5:04PM
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Jimmy Lewis Boards said..
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1. Slower paddling/in-water board speed, probably half!.. or less!
2. Harder to catch waves, I probably caught 1/3 of the waves I normally would get on the larger board. Mostly due to #1 above.
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So how does this work out in the long run? Do you improve your technique so you can catch weaker waves? Or do you accept that you need a more powerful wave in exchange for a better surfing/foiling experience?

Or is it a matter of tuning or putting on a bigger wing?

colas
4986 posts
29 Aug 2018 3:51PM
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Gorgo said..
So how does this work out in the long run? Do you improve your technique so you can catch weaker waves?



In my limited experience, going from a 8'9" board to a 6'10" one, yes, by the pumping technique you can regain some of the early take off. But paddling out will be much slower, no miracle there.

This is why I advise beginners to start with a somewhat long board. It allows you to take more waves (including getting back to the peak faster) and progress faster. If you are a strong paddler, with the new big foils, you can take off on very weak waves just by paddling speed, before having mastered the mini pumping. Of course, after 20-30 sessions, you will benefit immensely from a shorter board, but beginner gear for foiling resell very easily.

clappo01
QLD, 2 posts
30 Aug 2018 11:01AM
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Jimmy Lewis Boards said..
Hi clappo01,
The new model with all the bells & whistles is from $1995-$2195


Thanks for that. Like the shape a lot

30 Aug 2018 1:55PM
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Gorgo said..

Jimmy Lewis Boards said..
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1. Slower paddling/in-water board speed, probably half!.. or less!
2. Harder to catch waves, I probably caught 1/3 of the waves I normally would get on the larger board. Mostly due to #1 above.
....






So how does this work out in the long run? Do you improve your technique so you can catch weaker waves? Or do you accept that you need a more powerful wave in exchange for a better surfing/foiling experience?

Or is it a matter of tuning or putting on a bigger wing?


Hi Gorgo,
Like everything you get better with practice & technique.... I've gone from 7'6 to 7'3 to 6'5 in length.... But the litres have gone up or stayed the same but there will always be a trade off somewhere whether you're on a foil board, a sup or a surfboard...

glennc
NSW, 144 posts
30 Aug 2018 6:07PM
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Just had my second session on the 6,5. So good to ride, much more responsive than the 7,3 even tho its the same liter age.
Yes paddling takes getting used to but the benifits far out weight this.

1 Sep 2018 11:21AM
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I just had my first surf on my new 6'11 x 29 JL Flying V with the new GoFoil longer mast & IWA (I would have gone down tho the 6'5 but they were all pre-sold)
& was blown away how easy it was to paddle & how stable it was... I'm always nervous trying something new with foiling & paddled into my first wave with a little trepidation but my new setup felt amazing and flew all the way to the beach... I foiled for over an hour on my local reef break & didn't breach or fall off while riding once...The only wipeout was a late takeoff on a set wave where I couldn't get my weight forward quickly enough... Pumping, turning & paddling were all amazing....




20 Sep 2018 4:55PM
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Some fresh shots of the New Jimmy Lewis "Flying V"








19 Jun 2019 2:08PM
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Just an update from this original post that was brought to my attention....Sharksupper quoted 107L (according to marlon supposedly) for the 6'5 Flying V when in fact is actually it is the 115L originally stated...
The NEW 5'11 Flying V is 105L & the 6'5" is 115L just in case anyone else picked up on it...

Seajuice
NSW, 907 posts
20 Jun 2019 4:28AM
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Jimmy Lewis Boards said..
Instead of me getting on here & sounding like I'm just promoting JL boards, here's a post on the Standup Zone forum of the NEW Jimmy Lewis "Flying V" Sup Foil board....

The board now comes with both Tuttle box & track mounts as well as stepped tail & bevelled rails....

Here's what Sharksupper had to say about his new 6'5"

6'5 x 28.5 x 4.25 "Flying V" 107L according to Marlon, despite that the sticker on it says 115L (a mistake from the factory I'm told). This example is 15.5lbs in carbon (7kg).
This is the smallest version of this production model. Here are all the sizes Marlon listed:
6'5"x28.5"x4.25" (107L)
6'11"x29"x4.3" (122L)
7'5"x30"x4.7" (143L)
7'11"x31"x5" (168.6L)
The red has a pretty metal flake in it.
First session done. Wow, my observations here are going to be more about what it's like to ride a small-ish 6'5@107L foil specific SUP vs a larger (8'5@115L) converted surf SUP. This is a whole new category of board for me so I really can't provide any feedback on how it compares to other similarly shaped/sized foil specific boards.

I'm around 180-ish right now with a wet full wetsuit on (cold water here).

Conditions weren't the super best, but ok, glassy, 5-6ft @ 8-9sec, so a bit crunchy. Knee to chest high, mostly not breaking, but when they did it was steep. Not a tone of residual energy in the waves after breaking. I had the maliko 200 on with track adapter, so +4" on the mast. I ran it in the middle of the track, but after this session I think I need to move it all the way to the back. On drop-ins I was nearly stepping off the pad on the nose to keep it down.... but once riding my foot was just on or barely in front of the front foot marker on the pad.

I got off to a good start and somehow managed to catch and fly my very first drop-in not knowing the proper foot position yet.

The JL 6'5@107L compared to my converted Naish 8'5@115L:

1. Slower paddling/in-water board speed, probably half!.. or less!
2. Harder to catch waves, I probably caught 1/3 of the waves I normally would get on the larger board. Mostly due to #1 above.
3. Harder to keep the nose down on drop-in. Not sure why, but I really had to lean all my weight on the nose to get it leveled off on drop-in, I guess less leverage than my larger board...?? I had some spectacular crashes where the foil launched me down the wave to the bottom on late drops, got a couple of stings from hitting the water so hard! lol
4. Fantastic stability and float! I am truly amazed, the board is super stable, even feels maybe more stable than my larger board! Feels like it floats just as well @107L as the 115L! Weird!
5. Super light weight, I think the Naish with the massively reinforced foil box install is about 20-22lbs+, the JL is 15.5lbs, that's almost the weight of the foil in savings! Very noticeable carrying it and riding it.
5. Excellent handling both in the water and flying. You can pull a 180 in the water to catch a wave in like half a second! Once flying, the lower weight and swing weight make it SOOOOOO much more maneuverable. I also felt like there was less flex in the foil/mast due to the lower swing/weight.
6. Less glide? I guess with the weight savings it's like not having as much ballast, so I seemed to glide a little less long (no pumping) than with the heavier board. Not a lot, but noticeable.
7. More efficient flying and pumping. Pumping has definitely improved a whole lot! Not only can I pump easier to the wave in front of the one I'm on, but when I turn/carve or do mini-pumps I seem to get a lot out of my effort. I was able to pump half way back out on one ride. On the Naish I have pumped all the wave back out, but definitely not nearly as easily and that was under perfect conditions (good rebound). Today was not good for pumping back out and I was able to make it part way back out and several waves. I did not hit the tail or nose on the water even once while pumping, even aggressively, super cool! This allowed me to pump the foil even when only inches out of the water.
8. JL has the best finish!! The board finish is better than any of my cars! No joking. It's a real shame to see it get scuffed from paddling and handling.
9. It's harder to ride, less stable, but way more maneuverable.
10. I think I will still ride the Naish when the waves are bigger or the water is choppier. You need good board speed to catch bigger waves before they break, and paddling a tiny board like this in chop is not going to be fun. However, when the waves are good and easier to catch the advantages in handling and pumping are going to be really awesome! There are definitely trade offs with each board.

After a few more session I will try the foot straps it came with. I don't feel like I need them, but I can imagine they will allow even more pumping and stability in turns/etc.

I am stoked on the board, looking forward to learning how to ride it better!







And here's Glenn Cochrane's new 6'5" & his post on Facebook-
Thanks Rob from jimmy Lewis for my new 6'5 sup foil board. All the bells and whistles ,chimed rails, stepped bottom, flashy colour a really great finish.





Yep. Would have been better with foil set all the way back. I had the same problem catching & riding with a big wing being much more difficult which made me paddle back in to push the foil back. Wow what a difference it made. So much easier & comfortable.

max72
3 posts
25 Jun 2019 1:41AM
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hi everybody, i heard about strong frontfood pressure on the 5'11" flying V.... somebody can tell me how far from the tail is mounted the turtle box?

25 Jun 2019 4:37PM
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Hi Max72,
The rear of the Tuttle box is 37cm from the point on the tail or 17cm from the tip of the step....I just got a new carbon 5'11 to compare it to my current Signature sandwich construction 5'11 & they're identical...






Camarillo
365 posts
6 Jul 2019 4:07PM
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I have a JL 5'11 a month now and it is a great board ,104 liter written on the board btw

I use the board with a Gofoil M200 and a 29,5 mast most of the time and this combi is easy to balance on with my 85 kg even in 15 knots of wind. It is very nice to fly on such a short board but low paddle speed and almost no glide make it a lot harder to catch a (very)small wave.

I still have my JP 7'0 and NP Glide Large foil that I also struggled with to catch small waves in the beginning but after adjusting the angle of the foil with a 7 mm wedge the glide of the board improved a lot and I can catch much smaller waves now.

Of course the lower paddle speed of the JL 5'11 is caused by the shortness of the board and the drag of a bigger foil and lack of technique and strength....
Next up is putting the NP foil with the wedge on the JL hoping for more glide.
Unfortunately it is not so easy to change the angle of a foil with a tuttle connection but I am going to look into that as well.

One more difference between the JL and the JP boards is the matte hull of the JP vs the glossy hull of the JL...
I am thinking of using 400 grit sandpaper to get rid of the gloss of the JL, every little bit helps.

DWF
565 posts
6 Jul 2019 6:54PM
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You don't need to change the angle of the foil when the board is done right. I think the JL is done right.

7 Jul 2019 3:33PM
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HI Camarillo,
I ride the 5'11 Flying V at 82kg & the gloss makes no difference...It's just technique & as you say due to the short length of the board plus using the bigger wing it'll be a slow paddle back out....I use the IWA 90% of the time with mine...You could put the GoFoil carbon plate adapter on your GoFoil & move your mast further forward but I'd say it's more of a technique issue..

Camarillo
365 posts
8 Jul 2019 12:40AM
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I don't mind about a slow paddle out, I am looking for just a little paddle speed to catch small waves.... and I need the M200 in these small waves.
And I don't like to add another 7 cm to the 29,5 mast because of shallow sand banks.

8 Jul 2019 7:41AM
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No problem, sounds like you need to go back to a longer board....sanding the gloss paint off the board won't do much...



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