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Created by Duff15 27 days ago, 29 Jan 2020
Duff15
VIC, 243 posts
29 Jan 2020 8:59AM
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Hey keen on transitioning to a prone foil board. Anyone got some tips on board size and beginner friendly locations in Victoria? Currently surf a hybrid and kite foil.

Weigh 105kg already have a moses surf mast and 790wing

Clamsmasha
WA, 170 posts
29 Jan 2020 9:31AM
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Duff15 said..
Hey keen on transitioning to a prone foil board. Anyone got some tips on board size and beginner friendly locations in Victoria? Currently surf a hybrid and kite foil.

Weigh 105kg already have a moses surf mast and 790wing


For a board, something in the 5' - 6' range with heaps of volume. 790 might be on the smallish side for prone at your weight (starting out).
If you're on the surf coast side, there are som many options....Addis, Roadknight, Anglesea, Ocean Grove beachies, W end 13th....a million places on the right day down the coast. I haven't lived over there for a long time, but it's target rich.

Peninsula side, definitely some goers in Westernport, opportunistic beachies on the Gunna-Portsea stretch...Port Phillip Bay around Mornington in the big fronts. Phillip Island.....

Duff15
VIC, 243 posts
29 Jan 2020 12:07PM
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Duff15 said..
Hey keen on transitioning to a prone foil board. Anyone got some tips on board size and beginner friendly locations in Victoria? Currently surf a hybrid and kite foil.

Weigh 105kg already have a moses surf mast and 790wing




For a board, something in the 5' - 6' range with heaps of volume. 790 might be on the smallish side for prone at your weight (starting out).
If you're on the surf coast side, there are som many options....Addis, Roadknight, Anglesea, Ocean Grove beachies, W end 13th....a million places on the right day down the coast. I haven't lived over there for a long time, but it's target rich.

Peninsula side, definitely some goers in Westernport, opportunistic beachies on the Gunna-Portsea stretch...Port Phillip Bay around Mornington in the big fronts. Phillip Island.....



Thanks mate. So would you suggest the 873 or the 1100?

Also board size is a 156x50x70 42l okay?

Clamsmasha
WA, 170 posts
29 Jan 2020 12:18PM
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Clamsmasha said..



Duff15 said..
Hey keen on transitioning to a prone foil board. Anyone got some tips on board size and beginner friendly locations in Victoria? Currently surf a hybrid and kite foil.

Weigh 105kg already have a moses surf mast and 790wing





For a board, something in the 5' - 6' range with heaps of volume. 790 might be on the smallish side for prone at your weight (starting out).
If you're on the surf coast side, there are som many options....Addis, Roadknight, Anglesea, Ocean Grove beachies, W end 13th....a million places on the right day down the coast. I haven't lived over there for a long time, but it's target rich.

Peninsula side, definitely some goers in Westernport, opportunistic beachies on the Gunna-Portsea stretch...Port Phillip Bay around Mornington in the big fronts. Phillip Island.....




Thanks mate. So would you suggest the 873 or the 1100?

Also board size is a 156x50x70 42l okay?


That'll work, before long you'll want to go shorter but that's a prime first board.

Maybe the 873. It's big enough to fly easily and pump and pretty fast for its size. Moses has a lot of options for later when you want to get freaky, even if they are targeted at kite and WS applications.

toppleover
QLD, 1625 posts
29 Jan 2020 4:03PM
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Clamsmasha said..




Duff15 said..
Hey keen on transitioning to a prone foil board. Anyone got some tips on board size and beginner friendly locations in Victoria? Currently surf a hybrid and kite foil.

Weigh 105kg already have a moses surf mast and 790wing






For a board, something in the 5' - 6' range with heaps of volume. 790 might be on the smallish side for prone at your weight (starting out).
If you're on the surf coast side, there are som many options....Addis, Roadknight, Anglesea, Ocean Grove beachies, W end 13th....a million places on the right day down the coast. I haven't lived over there for a long time, but it's target rich.

Peninsula side, definitely some goers in Westernport, opportunistic beachies on the Gunna-Portsea stretch...Port Phillip Bay around Mornington in the big fronts. Phillip Island.....





Thanks mate. So would you suggest the 873 or the 1100?

Also board size is a 156x50x70 42l okay?



42 Litres, that's pretty low imo - if your 105kg.
Or did I totally miss-read this

Camarillo
236 posts
29 Jan 2020 2:57PM
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My 65 kg daughter started on 5'0 41 liter board. That was a good size to catch small waves.

I would say get a 5'6 55 liter unless you want to struggle .

Duff15
VIC, 243 posts
29 Jan 2020 5:55PM
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toppleover said..

Duff15 said..



Clamsmasha said..





Duff15 said..
Hey keen on transitioning to a prone foil board. Anyone got some tips on board size and beginner friendly locations in Victoria? Currently surf a hybrid and kite foil.

Weigh 105kg already have a moses surf mast and 790wing







For a board, something in the 5' - 6' range with heaps of volume. 790 might be on the smallish side for prone at your weight (starting out).
If you're on the surf coast side, there are som many options....Addis, Roadknight, Anglesea, Ocean Grove beachies, W end 13th....a million places on the right day down the coast. I haven't lived over there for a long time, but it's target rich.

Peninsula side, definitely some goers in Westernport, opportunistic beachies on the Gunna-Portsea stretch...Port Phillip Bay around Mornington in the big fronts. Phillip Island.....






Thanks mate. So would you suggest the 873 or the 1100?

Also board size is a 156x50x70 42l okay?




42 Litres, that's pretty low imo - if your 105kg.
Or did I totally miss-read this


Yea 105kg what so aim for 55plus?

Duff15
VIC, 243 posts
29 Jan 2020 5:57PM
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Camarillo said..
My 65 kg daughter started on 5'0 41 liter board. That was a good size to catch small waves.

I would say get a 5'6 55 liter unless you want to struggle .


Noted will keep an eye out. What brands do you recommend and what construction materials?

Thanks

toppleover
QLD, 1625 posts
29 Jan 2020 7:08PM
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Duff15 said..

toppleover said..


Duff15 said..




Clamsmasha said..






Duff15 said..
Hey keen on transitioning to a prone foil board. Anyone got some tips on board size and beginner friendly locations in Victoria? Currently surf a hybrid and kite foil.

Weigh 105kg already have a moses surf mast and 790wing








For a board, something in the 5' - 6' range with heaps of volume. 790 might be on the smallish side for prone at your weight (starting out).
If you're on the surf coast side, there are som many options....Addis, Roadknight, Anglesea, Ocean Grove beachies, W end 13th....a million places on the right day down the coast. I haven't lived over there for a long time, but it's target rich.

Peninsula side, definitely some goers in Westernport, opportunistic beachies on the Gunna-Portsea stretch...Port Phillip Bay around Mornington in the big fronts. Phillip Island.....







Thanks mate. So would you suggest the 873 or the 1100?

Also board size is a 156x50x70 42l okay?





42 Litres, that's pretty low imo - if your 105kg.
Or did I totally miss-read this



Yea 105kg what so aim for 55plus?


Depends on your age/paddle fitness - what volume surfboard do you usually ride?

Duff15
VIC, 243 posts
29 Jan 2020 7:29PM
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toppleover said..

Duff15 said..


toppleover said..



Duff15 said..





Clamsmasha said..







Duff15 said..
Hey keen on transitioning to a prone foil board. Anyone got some tips on board size and beginner friendly locations in Victoria? Currently surf a hybrid and kite foil.

Weigh 105kg already have a moses surf mast and 790wing









For a board, something in the 5' - 6' range with heaps of volume. 790 might be on the smallish side for prone at your weight (starting out).
If you're on the surf coast side, there are som many options....Addis, Roadknight, Anglesea, Ocean Grove beachies, W end 13th....a million places on the right day down the coast. I haven't lived over there for a long time, but it's target rich.

Peninsula side, definitely some goers in Westernport, opportunistic beachies on the Gunna-Portsea stretch...Port Phillip Bay around Mornington in the big fronts. Phillip Island.....








Thanks mate. So would you suggest the 873 or the 1100?

Also board size is a 156x50x70 42l okay?






42 Litres, that's pretty low imo - if your 105kg.
Or did I totally miss-read this




Yea 105kg what so aim for 55plus?



Depends on your age/paddle fitness - what volume surfboard do you usually ride?


31 fit currently ride a 7foot at around 60l

toppleover
QLD, 1625 posts
29 Jan 2020 7:43PM
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toppleover said..



Duff15 said..




toppleover said..





Duff15 said..







Clamsmasha said..









Duff15 said..
Hey keen on transitioning to a prone foil board. Anyone got some tips on board size and beginner friendly locations in Victoria? Currently surf a hybrid and kite foil.

Weigh 105kg already have a moses surf mast and 790wing











For a board, something in the 5' - 6' range with heaps of volume. 790 might be on the smallish side for prone at your weight (starting out).
If you're on the surf coast side, there are som many options....Addis, Roadknight, Anglesea, Ocean Grove beachies, W end 13th....a million places on the right day down the coast. I haven't lived over there for a long time, but it's target rich.

Peninsula side, definitely some goers in Westernport, opportunistic beachies on the Gunna-Portsea stretch...Port Phillip Bay around Mornington in the big fronts. Phillip Island.....










Thanks mate. So would you suggest the 873 or the 1100?

Also board size is a 156x50x70 42l okay?








42 Litres, that's pretty low imo - if your 105kg.
Or did I totally miss-read this






Yea 105kg what so aim for 55plus?





Depends on your age/paddle fitness - what volume surfboard do you usually ride?




31 fit currently ride a 7foot at around 60l



Yeh, 55ish L should be fine - try to go 2nd hand as once addicted you will loose weight from all the paddling & want a smaller board

Downwinder
QLD, 1939 posts
29 Jan 2020 7:57PM
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toppleover said.
42 Litres, that's pretty low imo - if your 105kg.
Or did I totally miss-read this


Hay Duff15
My Prone foilboard is 5'5'' @ 70 litres she's a Gem of a board, paddles like a machine & you can Duck-Dive her.
At the moment I'm like 93kg and I'm very close to 60yo - when I'm in training mode I'm like 83/85kg.

Remember Duff15 at 105kg volume is your friend when you are a heavyweight. The blokes who are like 75kg to 65kg featherweights those blokes can foil a foilboad thats under 40 litres with no worries.

There's a couple of guys in the Burleigh Heads area in their early 20's & 30's that are featherweights and they are ripping on the prone foilboard around the 4'0'' mark that are under 40 litres & they are ripping on them guys like ibis, Greg & Matt.

This is my 5'5'' @ 70 litres I'm making a 5'0'' @ 63 litres But I can't see me going any smaller than 5ft as I like my knees on the Prone Foilboard.




Duff15
VIC, 243 posts
30 Jan 2020 5:54AM
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Downwinder said..

toppleover said.
42 Litres, that's pretty low imo - if your 105kg.
Or did I totally miss-read this



Hay Duff15
My Prone foilboard is 5'5'' @ 70 litres she's a Gem of a board, paddles like a machine & you can Duck-Dive her.
At the moment I'm like 93kg and I'm very close to 60yo - when I'm in training mode I'm like 83/85kg.

Remember Duff15 at 105kg volume is your friend when you are a heavyweight. The blokes who are like 75kg to 65kg featherweights those blokes can foil a foilboad thats under 40 litres with no worries.

There's a couple of guys in the Burleigh Heads area in their early 20's & 30's that are featherweights and they are ripping on the prone foilboard around the 4'0'' mark that are under 40 litres & they are ripping on them guys like ibis, Greg & Matt.

This is my 5'5'' @ 70 litres I'm making a 5'0'' @ 63 litres But I can't see me going any smaller than 5ft as I like my knees on the Prone Foilboard.





Thanks mate, yea board looks sweet. 873 front wing big enough?

Duff15
VIC, 243 posts
30 Jan 2020 5:55AM
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Duff15 said..



toppleover said..




Duff15 said..





toppleover said..






Duff15 said..








Clamsmasha said..










Duff15 said..
Hey keen on transitioning to a prone foil board. Anyone got some tips on board size and beginner friendly locations in Victoria? Currently surf a hybrid and kite foil.

Weigh 105kg already have a moses surf mast and 790wing












For a board, something in the 5' - 6' range with heaps of volume. 790 might be on the smallish side for prone at your weight (starting out).
If you're on the surf coast side, there are som many options....Addis, Roadknight, Anglesea, Ocean Grove beachies, W end 13th....a million places on the right day down the coast. I haven't lived over there for a long time, but it's target rich.

Peninsula side, definitely some goers in Westernport, opportunistic beachies on the Gunna-Portsea stretch...Port Phillip Bay around Mornington in the big fronts. Phillip Island.....











Thanks mate. So would you suggest the 873 or the 1100?

Also board size is a 156x50x70 42l okay?









42 Litres, that's pretty low imo - if your 105kg.
Or did I totally miss-read this







Yea 105kg what so aim for 55plus?






Depends on your age/paddle fitness - what volume surfboard do you usually ride?





31 fit currently ride a 7foot at around 60l




Yeh, 55ish L should be fine - try to go 2nd hand as once addicted you will loose weight from all the paddling & want a smaller board


Okay thanks for the advice.

Duff15
VIC, 243 posts
31 Jan 2020 10:24AM
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toppleover said..

Duff15 said..



toppleover said..




Duff15 said..





toppleover said..






Duff15 said..








Clamsmasha said..










Duff15 said..
Hey keen on transitioning to a prone foil board. Anyone got some tips on board size and beginner friendly locations in Victoria? Currently surf a hybrid and kite foil.

Weigh 105kg already have a moses surf mast and 790wing












For a board, something in the 5' - 6' range with heaps of volume. 790 might be on the smallish side for prone at your weight (starting out).
If you're on the surf coast side, there are som many options....Addis, Roadknight, Anglesea, Ocean Grove beachies, W end 13th....a million places on the right day down the coast. I haven't lived over there for a long time, but it's target rich.

Peninsula side, definitely some goers in Westernport, opportunistic beachies on the Gunna-Portsea stretch...Port Phillip Bay around Mornington in the big fronts. Phillip Island.....











Thanks mate. So would you suggest the 873 or the 1100?

Also board size is a 156x50x70 42l okay?









42 Litres, that's pretty low imo - if your 105kg.
Or did I totally miss-read this







Yea 105kg what so aim for 55plus?






Depends on your age/paddle fitness - what volume surfboard do you usually ride?





31 fit currently ride a 7foot at around 60l




Yeh, 55ish L should be fine - try to go 2nd hand as once addicted you will loose weight from all the paddling & want a smaller board


How about this
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Duff15 said..



toppleover said..




Duff15 said..





toppleover said..






Duff15 said..








Clamsmasha said..










Duff15 said..
Hey keen on transitioning to a prone foil board. Anyone got some tips on board size and beginner friendly locations in Victoria? Currently surf a hybrid and kite foil.

Weigh 105kg already have a moses surf mast and 790wing












For a board, something in the 5' - 6' range with heaps of volume. 790 might be on the smallish side for prone at your weight (starting out).
If you're on the surf coast side, there are som many options....Addis, Roadknight, Anglesea, Ocean Grove beachies, W end 13th....a million places on the right day down the coast. I haven't lived over there for a long time, but it's target rich.

Peninsula side, definitely some goers in Westernport, opportunistic beachies on the Gunna-Portsea stretch...Port Phillip Bay around Mornington in the big fronts. Phillip Island.....











Thanks mate. So would you suggest the 873 or the 1100?

Also board size is a 156x50x70 42l okay?









42 Litres, that's pretty low imo - if your 105kg.
Or did I totally miss-read this







Yea 105kg what so aim for 55plus?






Depends on your age/paddle fitness - what volume surfboard do you usually ride?





31 fit currently ride a 7foot at around 60l




Yeh, 55ish L should be fine - try to go 2nd hand as once addicted you will loose weight from all the paddling & want a smaller board


How about this one, might speed up the learning curve. Will a moses 873 front wing be big enough?




Duff15
VIC, 243 posts
9 Feb 2020 10:44AM
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First session absolutely wrecked. No flight but close. Very happy with the volume. Not ideal conditions strong cross shore winds. The foil is very influenced by rips/tide and current. Need to work on getting my foot to the sweet spot.

Was using a 82 mast but kept hitting sand banks. Would i be better off with a 71 or 61?

Any Vic members keen for a session?

Cheers




Piros
QLD, 5725 posts
9 Feb 2020 10:58AM
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Yes definitely 100% learn on a shorter mast 61cm .

Duff15
VIC, 243 posts
9 Feb 2020 11:08AM
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Yes definitely 100% learn on a shorter mast 61cm .


Thanks mate was thinking that was the case.

toppleover
QLD, 1625 posts
9 Feb 2020 11:11AM
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Very nice rig...Imo, 70-75cm mast is the sweet spot for prone - you will be breeching way too much on the 61.

Duff15
VIC, 243 posts
9 Feb 2020 11:36AM
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Very nice rig...Imo, 70-75cm mast is the sweet spot for prone - you will be breeching way too much on the 61.


Thanks mate they arnt cheap so i want to get one that will work when i am progressing

drsurf
NSW, 78 posts
10 Feb 2020 11:25PM
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Hi Duff15.
Check your messages for a 71cm Moses mast for sale.

Duff15
VIC, 243 posts
11 Feb 2020 4:29AM
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Hi Duff15.
Check your messages for a 71cm Moses mast for sale.


Hey mate the 71 is a kite mast. Wont work on a 873 wing (too flexible) i need the 72 reinforced surf mast. Cheers

Duff15
VIC, 243 posts
16 Feb 2020 6:26PM
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Second session in the water. Got a very small glide thrown off and the foil smashed me in the head (nice looking lump on my head now) so much harder Than first thought. Nothing like learning something new

colas
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16 Feb 2020 4:31PM
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so much harder Than first thought. Nothing like learning something new


This is why we advise to abandon the hope of having to buy your foiling gear only once. You need to get specific gear for the learning. Granted, you would not keep it very long, but otherwise you will end up extending hugely the learning phase, which is the most dangerous one.

This is not directed towards you, but rather to the growing number of people we see asking for gear advice but not wanting to start with a learning setup (easy and stable) and resell it later to get more advanced gear.

Duff15
VIC, 243 posts
16 Feb 2020 6:52PM
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Duff15 said..
so much harder Than first thought. Nothing like learning something new



This is why we advise to abandon the hope of having to buy your foiling gear only once. You need to get specific gear for the learning. Granted, you would not keep it very long, but otherwise you will end up extending hugely the learning phase, which is the most dangerous one.

This is not directed towards you, but rather to the growing number of people we see asking for gear advice but not wanting to start with a learning setup (easy and stable) and resell it later to get more advanced gear.


Yea understandable. If i had a 45l board i would really struggle to float. Im on a 6foot 65l board. Easy to paddle and holds my 105kg fat ass. Im finding it hard to find the right waves (just paddling into white water at the moment) Funny how a foot wave can have so much power (kinda scary)

Duff15
VIC, 243 posts
16 Feb 2020 6:54PM
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colas said..

Duff15 said..
so much harder Than first thought. Nothing like learning something new



This is why we advise to abandon the hope of having to buy your foiling gear only once. You need to get specific gear for the learning. Granted, you would not keep it very long, but otherwise you will end up extending hugely the learning phase, which is the most dangerous one.

This is not directed towards you, but rather to the growing number of people we see asking for gear advice but not wanting to start with a learning setup (easy and stable) and resell it later to get more advanced gear.


The problem i see with the market is not big boards. Took me ages to find a big prone board. They are all around the 45l mark. Prob good of you weigh 70kg



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