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Takuma Kujira

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Created by Filow > 9 months ago, 16 Sep 2020
Alysum
NSW, 853 posts
21 Nov 2021 9:29AM
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They need to sell fuses separately so that people can use a cedrus mast too without being forced to buy a takuma mast

Hwy1North
38 posts
21 Nov 2021 6:57AM
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If I get a good deal on a LoL 1300 is that a dumb idea? I always wanted to ride that wing. Have the new wings surpassed it that far? My favorite wing right now is the lift 150 surf v2.


Dumb idea? YES!

Carrying on my tradition of purchasing last years news, I just got a 980 to replace my 1300. Paired with the carbon mast/fuse, and a KD 13.5" shimmed with his 1.5 and .5, I went out today and realized that the LOL 1300 is garbage next to a Kujira. The 1300 has much more initial lift to the point of being difficult to control, is less roll stable, and doesn't glide nearly as well. I know it's old hat on this forum, but the Kujira is really good because it's high performance and easy to use. The worst thing with the 1300 is that as I kick out and pump for speed, it will sometimes flip over in a violent and painful way. Not sure if the tip breaches as I turn, or what, but it sucks. The 980 just glides over the whitewater and then is much more stable to begin pumping. And it pumps in a way that I can feel what's going on. My game just went to the next level because of confidence taking off, stability while gliding, and did I mention speed on small waves!

I think the 1600 is a decent sup foil if the waves aren't too steep, and a great wing foil, but I'll be replacing it with one of the new ones or the 1210 as cash and availibility coincide.

martyman
WA, 166 posts
21 Nov 2021 11:51AM
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toppleover said..




Resptech said..
I haven't seen it mentioned at all yet and given my uncertainty of the projected area ( my buds 980 Kujira is about the same width as the my 1260 SPG GC - just deeper chord on GC) Anyone know if the new 1095 is expected to be a replacement for the 1210 or 980? What size will it be most similar too - I need something for 18 knots+, freshwater, large chop (75kg stooge on board) .







I'm no expert just been chatting to someone that has a 1095 on Insta, the 1095 does not replace the 1210 it sits between 980/1210.
From a prone perspective:
1) Turns better than 1210 (not far off the 980)
2) Less lift on takeoff than both 980/1210
3) Wingspan is slightly more than 1210
4) Lower stall speed than 980 but not as low as 1210
5) More efficient to pump & better glide compared to 1210 (hard to believe as 1210 has excellent pump/glide)
6) Has some flex - feels a little springy
7) Faster than 1210





so basically it's for winging




Eric Antonson doesn't seem to think it's for winging only:
www.instagram.com/p/CWdXSDPA-ig/


lol, I never said you can't use it for surfing. Go right ahead.

Hdip
252 posts
21 Nov 2021 1:57PM
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Alysum said..
They need to sell fuses separately so that people can use a cedrus mast too without being forced to buy a takuma mast


The foil shop in seal beach sells all the pieces separately. Well not the mast maybe. But fuse and front wings stand alone. They just got their website live too.
foilshop.com/

foilstate
27 posts
22 Nov 2021 2:11AM
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foilstate said..



dejavu said..
Does anyone know if Takuma is planning on adding more options for mast and fuselage lengths? I'd like to try the Kijura foils wind foiling.




Talked to a supplier saying maybe in 2022, some other fuse lengths.. If it's about shortening the fuselage, I tried something out today and it works really good! Sand the fuse rather flat and drill a 5mm hole at 3cm distance from the other hole, then create a M6 thread. Add some shims to recreate the right tail angle, some water time testing might be required to get the angle right (the tail and the fuse have a weird slope). Photos below.. making the 1210 turn tighter and pumping out of the hole easier, overall great upgrade, fuselage bending because of the new hole possible, to be monitored. Will try an even shorter fuse soon!

foilgold said..




Looking Great!!!

Even though I have a carbon mast, bought a fuse to try to do this also!

Takuma kujira foils with a Cedrus (or custom mast) with a shorter fuse should equal the best all around foils you could have.
Hopefully they will come out with shorter fuse options in 2022.




Takuma is coming up with a non T carbon mast in 2022, 75 and 85 lengths, not sure if the alu fuse remains the same. Nolimitz seem to also be a decent option. Cedrus might be too draggy because of its thickness, different opinions on this..

martyman
WA, 166 posts
22 Nov 2021 1:22PM
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foilstate said..




dejavu said..
Does anyone know if Takuma is planning on adding more options for mast and fuselage lengths? I'd like to try the Kijura foils wind foiling.





Talked to a supplier saying maybe in 2022, some other fuse lengths.. If it's about shortening the fuselage, I tried something out today and it works really good! Sand the fuse rather flat and drill a 5mm hole at 3cm distance from the other hole, then create a M6 thread. Add some shims to recreate the right tail angle, some water time testing might be required to get the angle right (the tail and the fuse have a weird slope). Photos below.. making the 1210 turn tighter and pumping out of the hole easier, overall great upgrade, fuselage bending because of the new hole possible, to be monitored. Will try an even shorter fuse soon!

foilgold said..





Looking Great!!!

Even though I have a carbon mast, bought a fuse to try to do this also!

Takuma kujira foils with a Cedrus (or custom mast) with a shorter fuse should equal the best all around foils you could have.
Hopefully they will come out with shorter fuse options in 2022.





Takuma is coming up with a non T carbon mast in 2022, 75 and 85 lengths, not sure if the alu fuse remains the same. Nolimitz seem to also be a decent option. Cedrus might be too draggy because of its thickness, different opinions on this..


I had a no limitz mast. it was really nice-light and thin profile. It was not much stiffer or at all than the stock takuma alum. Also, no ability to put different adaptors on it. It is very light. Light to the point it was a problem in high winds having the board flip over and have the foil tomahawk my wing.

It will be interesting to see if the mast is quality or more crap production stuff. Bent fuselages, bent masts, wiggly wings, cracking tubercles-honestly what a burn.

Anyways, I switched to Project cedrus as I'm 90kg, need stiffness and use a couple/few different systems. It will be interesting to see if the mast actually drags.

foilstate
27 posts
24 Nov 2021 4:24AM
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martyman said..

foilstate said..







foilstate said..





dejavu said..
Does anyone know if Takuma is planning on adding more options for mast and fuselage lengths? I'd like to try the Kijura foils wind foiling.






Talked to a supplier saying maybe in 2022, some other fuse lengths.. If it's about shortening the fuselage, I tried something out today and it works really good! Sand the fuse rather flat and drill a 5mm hole at 3cm distance from the other hole, then create a M6 thread. Add some shims to recreate the right tail angle, some water time testing might be required to get the angle right (the tail and the fuse have a weird slope). Photos below.. making the 1210 turn tighter and pumping out of the hole easier, overall great upgrade, fuselage bending because of the new hole possible, to be monitored. Will try an even shorter fuse soon!

foilgold said..






Looking Great!!!

Even though I have a carbon mast, bought a fuse to try to do this also!

Takuma kujira foils with a Cedrus (or custom mast) with a shorter fuse should equal the best all around foils you could have.
Hopefully they will come out with shorter fuse options in 2022.






Takuma is coming up with a non T carbon mast in 2022, 75 and 85 lengths, not sure if the alu fuse remains the same. Nolimitz seem to also be a decent option. Cedrus might be too draggy because of its thickness, different opinions on this..



I had a no limitz mast. it was really nice-light and thin profile. It was not much stiffer or at all than the stock takuma alum. Also, no ability to put different adaptors on it. It is very light. Light to the point it was a problem in high winds having the board flip over and have the foil tomahawk my wing.

It will be interesting to see if the mast is quality or more crap production stuff. Bent fuselages, bent masts, wiggly wings, cracking tubercles-honestly what a burn.

Anyways, I switched to Project cedrus as I'm 90kg, need stiffness and use a couple/few different systems. It will be interesting to see if the mast actually drags.


Interesting feedback on the masts.. do you feel a difference of drag between nolimitz and cedrus?

foilthegreats
306 posts
24 Nov 2021 10:16PM
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I have a Cedrus Clydesdale 85cm currently using with Cloud9 F-series.

Compared to Cloud9, Armstrong and Naish masts I did feel a drag difference at first. I'm used to it now and have had some of my best sessions on that setup. Cedrus is super stiff and light.

The profile is similar to a GoFoil mast drag wise.

Alysum
NSW, 853 posts
26 Nov 2021 10:54AM
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martyman said..

foilstate said..







foilstate said..





dejavu said..
Does anyone know if Takuma is planning on adding more options for mast and fuselage lengths? I'd like to try the Kijura foils wind foiling.






Talked to a supplier saying maybe in 2022, some other fuse lengths.. If it's about shortening the fuselage, I tried something out today and it works really good! Sand the fuse rather flat and drill a 5mm hole at 3cm distance from the other hole, then create a M6 thread. Add some shims to recreate the right tail angle, some water time testing might be required to get the angle right (the tail and the fuse have a weird slope). Photos below.. making the 1210 turn tighter and pumping out of the hole easier, overall great upgrade, fuselage bending because of the new hole possible, to be monitored. Will try an even shorter fuse soon!

foilgold said..






Looking Great!!!

Even though I have a carbon mast, bought a fuse to try to do this also!

Takuma kujira foils with a Cedrus (or custom mast) with a shorter fuse should equal the best all around foils you could have.
Hopefully they will come out with shorter fuse options in 2022.






Takuma is coming up with a non T carbon mast in 2022, 75 and 85 lengths, not sure if the alu fuse remains the same. Nolimitz seem to also be a decent option. Cedrus might be too draggy because of its thickness, different opinions on this..



I had a no limitz mast. it was really nice-light and thin profile. It was not much stiffer or at all than the stock takuma alum. Also, no ability to put different adaptors on it. It is very light. Light to the point it was a problem in high winds having the board flip over and have the foil tomahawk my wing.

It will be interesting to see if the mast is quality or more crap production stuff. Bent fuselages, bent masts, wiggly wings, cracking tubercles-honestly what a burn.

Anyways, I switched to Project cedrus as I'm 90kg, need stiffness and use a couple/few different systems. It will be interesting to see if the mast actually drags.


I also have a Cedrus mast on order to use with my Kujira. What size did you go for ?

martyman
WA, 166 posts
26 Nov 2021 1:34PM
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Alysum said..

martyman said..


foilstate said..









foilstate said..






dejavu said..
Does anyone know if Takuma is planning on adding more options for mast and fuselage lengths? I'd like to try the Kijura foils wind foiling.







Talked to a supplier saying maybe in 2022, some other fuse lengths.. If it's about shortening the fuselage, I tried something out today and it works really good! Sand the fuse rather flat and drill a 5mm hole at 3cm distance from the other hole, then create a M6 thread. Add some shims to recreate the right tail angle, some water time testing might be required to get the angle right (the tail and the fuse have a weird slope). Photos below.. making the 1210 turn tighter and pumping out of the hole easier, overall great upgrade, fuselage bending because of the new hole possible, to be monitored. Will try an even shorter fuse soon!

foilgold said..







Looking Great!!!

Even though I have a carbon mast, bought a fuse to try to do this also!

Takuma kujira foils with a Cedrus (or custom mast) with a shorter fuse should equal the best all around foils you could have.
Hopefully they will come out with shorter fuse options in 2022.







Takuma is coming up with a non T carbon mast in 2022, 75 and 85 lengths, not sure if the alu fuse remains the same. Nolimitz seem to also be a decent option. Cedrus might be too draggy because of its thickness, different opinions on this..




I had a no limitz mast. it was really nice-light and thin profile. It was not much stiffer or at all than the stock takuma alum. Also, no ability to put different adaptors on it. It is very light. Light to the point it was a problem in high winds having the board flip over and have the foil tomahawk my wing.

It will be interesting to see if the mast is quality or more crap production stuff. Bent fuselages, bent masts, wiggly wings, cracking tubercles-honestly what a burn.

Anyways, I switched to Project cedrus as I'm 90kg, need stiffness and use a couple/few different systems. It will be interesting to see if the mast actually drags.



I also have a Cedrus mast on order to use with my Kujira. What size did you go for ?


85cm

martyman
WA, 166 posts
26 Nov 2021 1:35PM
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Any reviews yet on the 1095? I certainly interested...

PeterP
724 posts
29 Nov 2021 6:13PM
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I tried a 1440 today in smallish waves - I normally use 1210 for SUP and wing. I was hoping it might work as a SUP downwind wing but not sure as I felt no discernable improvement in take-offs. It needed more or less the same amount of push as the 1210 to get board up to foilable speed.

Once up the turning and pumping is predictably quite different, felt much stiffer and the pumping was really weird. I couldn't really find a rhythm where the foil communicated lift and drive but the foil's stall speed seems much higher as the foil never really wanted to drop. If I tried to pump and paddle at the same time I could keep it going quite nicely, much longer than 1210 and this would be promising for downwind use.

I used the Signature KD Mach1 tail stab which works great with the 1210. Will have to try with the Kujira std tail and the 178 and see what happens, I guess.

The search for optimum paddle downwind foil continues.....I weigh 89kg and getting on, so it has to be easy....

mcrt
375 posts
30 Nov 2021 1:16AM
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Mike Pedigo is ripping on the Kujira 1440.
He rides his own asym board design,allows him a bigger offset stance.

www.instagram.com/reel/CW0kpIEjeQ8/?utm_medium=copy_link

toppleover
QLD, 1963 posts
30 Nov 2021 12:04PM
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mcrt said..
Mike Pedigo is ripping on the Kujira 1440.
He rides his own asym board design,allows him a bigger offset stance.

www.instagram.com/reel/CW0kpIEjeQ8/?utm_medium=copy_link


Read on one of MP's Insta clips that he was using a + shim (I always shim neutral or negative), so tried it today with my 1210/Pedigo tail - big improvement on how tight you can crank it through turns & think I just had my best session on the 1210 so far.

Camarillo
309 posts
10 Dec 2021 4:36PM
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Broke a tip of my 1210 yesterday, have to decide to have it repaired to original or to take the other tip off as well.
My board was was blown over by the wind on the beach (sand only!)
What is the latest on taking off the wingtips completely?
How will it affect lift,glide,control etc?



toppleover
QLD, 1963 posts
10 Dec 2021 7:00PM
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According to Erik, it's better without - I think it would be easier to remove the remaining winglet than to reconstruct.

Camarillo
309 posts
10 Dec 2021 5:22PM
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According to Erik, it's better without - I think it would be easier to remove the remaining winglet than to reconstruct.


Good to know but he is a talented young proner , I am an old mediocre sup and wing foiler...
I don't want a foil that turns a little bit better but is more difficult for me.
Yes it is much easier to remove the other winglet but I liked the 1210 a lot as it was.

toppleover
QLD, 1963 posts
10 Dec 2021 7:48PM
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Camarillo said..

toppleover said..
According to Erik, it's better without - I think it would be easier to remove the remaining winglet than to reconstruct.



Good to know but he is a talented young proner , I am an old mediocre sup and wing foiler...
I don't want a foil that turns a little bit better but is more difficult for me.
Yes it is much easier to remove the other winglet but I liked the 1210 a lot as it was.


Sounds like your gonna be busy fixing it then

martyman
WA, 166 posts
11 Dec 2021 1:07PM
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Camarillo said..
Broke a tip of my 1210 yesterday, have to decide to have it repaired to original or to take the other tip off as well.
My board was was blown over by the wind on the beach (sand only!)
What is the latest on taking off the wingtips completely?
How will it affect lift,glide,control etc?




I took the tips off my 1440. zero difference-less dangerous.

toppleover
QLD, 1963 posts
11 Jan 2022 4:33PM
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MisterBennetts at it again, the 1095 looks like a super fun wing & can't wait till the Oz shipment arrives

www.instagram.com/tv/CYkDll3lH_e/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

kobo
NSW, 786 posts
11 Jan 2022 7:55PM
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That wing is no good.....he fell off twice !

toppleover
QLD, 1963 posts
11 Jan 2022 7:04PM
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kobo said..
That wing is no good.....he fell off twice !



Lol, cheers kobo

toppleover
QLD, 1963 posts
12 Jan 2022 5:44PM
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The KJ1095's are here in Oz, should have mine later this week

frenchfoiler
360 posts
13 Jan 2022 4:23AM
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www.instagram.com/p/CYpAhOOF7HP/

I'm pretty sure Adam is gonna join the team, Takuma has the money and good gear off course.

Alysum
NSW, 853 posts
13 Jan 2022 5:13PM
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Can't wait for my 1095/178 too

Looks like there's a 500/158 wingset coming out ?

Wished the 750 came with the 158 too.

Alysum
NSW, 853 posts
13 Jan 2022 5:19PM
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Alysum said..
They need to sell fuses separately so that people can use a cedrus mast too without being forced to buy a takuma mast


Just a follow up on this, I managed to buy the fuselage and screwset separately without the rest at Surf FX

dejavu
659 posts
14 Jan 2022 12:03AM
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toppleover
QLD, 1963 posts
14 Jan 2022 10:39AM
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Thanks to SurfFX for the speedy delivery - pic below of my new 1095 next to me ol faithful 980



Stingersup
WA, 81 posts
14 Jan 2022 9:20AM
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Ride report please
If it can match the 980's speed and the 1210's glide it will be a winner.

toppleover
QLD, 1963 posts
14 Jan 2022 11:51AM
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Ride report please
If it can match the 980's speed and the 1210's glide it will be a winner.



Will take her for a spin tomorrow morning & will hold off commenting until I've got a few sessions on her, have heard that the 1095 is not as forgiving as the 980 & 1210 but once you get it dialled .

Also read that it can match the speed of the 980 & glide of the 1210, hard to believe so it's going to be interesting, hope my skills are good enough but may take some time.




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