Forums > Stand Up Paddle Foiling

Wave chaser sup foil boards

Reply
Created by tinka 26 days ago, 20 Jul 2020
tinka
QLD, 30 posts
20 Jul 2020 3:40PM
Thumbs Up

Has anyone got any reviews on wave chaser sup foil boards.

AndyShwartz
WA, 102 posts
20 Jul 2020 6:03PM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
barney64 said..
Has anyone got any reviews on wave chaser sup foil boards.


I have the 5'10 115 litre 180SF model. Great economical board around half the price of the fancy names. Obviously with the low price theres going to be little things that you will notice but hey they all get trashed if you are having ago.

I'm 75kg to 80kg for wingding its stable in the chop for a beginner and cant see me buying anything smaller for a while. SUP foiling I've taken it out once and fell off about 50 times but think I might be OK will stick with it.

Abdillam
VIC, 226 posts
20 Jul 2020 11:04PM
Thumbs Up

I've progressed from the 180SF to the 165SFX and just received the 165VFX all used for wing foiling... haven't surfed them but stoked on the progressive design through the models, the quality and the performance.
The 165VFX is 87L and I weigh 80kgs plus gear. Also using the Ensis wings and Moses W1100 foil















Alysum
NSW, 520 posts
21 Jul 2020 6:28AM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
AndyShwartz said..

barney64 said..
Has anyone got any reviews on wave chaser sup foil boards.



I have the 5'10 115 litre 180SF model. Great economical board around half the price of the fancy names. Obviously with the low price theres going to be little things that you will notice but hey they all get trashed if you are having ago.


Could you please give examples of those small things you notice?

Jedibrad
NSW, 524 posts
21 Jul 2020 5:48PM
Thumbs Up

I'm a team rider and had some input in the latest model. They are made in the same factory as admunson. Although I haven't got mine yet you can see from the photos we've pulled the volumes rearwards so your stance for paddling or wingdinging is right on the foil balance point, so pop up is super easy. When riding there is less swing weight, I'll make a video in the next few days explaining the theory

tinka
QLD, 30 posts
21 Jul 2020 7:55PM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
Jedibrad said..
I'm a team rider and had some input in the latest model. They are made in the same factory as admunson. Although I haven't got mine yet you can see from the photos we've pulled the volumes rearwards so your stance for paddling or wingdinging is right on the foil balance point, so pop up is super easy. When riding there is less swing weight, I'll make a video in the next few days explaining the theory


Is wave chaser producing SFX and VFX ? or just the VFX only ?

AndyShwartz
WA, 102 posts
22 Jul 2020 8:35AM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
Alysum said..

AndyShwartz said..


barney64 said..
Has anyone got any reviews on wave chaser sup foil boards.




I have the 5'10 115 litre 180SF model. Great economical board around half the price of the fancy names. Obviously with the low price theres going to be little things that you will notice but hey they all get trashed if you are having ago.



Could you please give examples of those small things you notice?


have the earlier 180SF model I think it cost $1080. For the price it's great. If you are worried about minor issues probably just spend more.

AndyShwartz
WA, 102 posts
22 Jul 2020 8:39AM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
Jedibrad said..
I'm a team rider and had some input in the latest model. They are made in the same factory as admunson. Although I haven't got mine yet you can see from the photos we've pulled the volumes rearwards so your stance for paddling or wingdinging is right on the foil balance point, so pop up is super easy. When riding there is less swing weight, I'll make a video in the next few days explaining the theory


I like the look of the new boards. Do you have any photos of the new prone boards?

Alysum
NSW, 520 posts
22 Jul 2020 11:49AM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
AndyShwartz said..

Alysum said..


AndyShwartz said..



barney64 said..
Has anyone got any reviews on wave chaser sup foil boards.





I have the 5'10 115 litre 180SF model. Great economical board around half the price of the fancy names. Obviously with the low price theres going to be little things that you will notice but hey they all get trashed if you are having ago.




Could you please give examples of those small things you notice?



have the earlier 180SF model I think it cost $1080. For the price it's great. If you are worried about minor issues probably just spend more.


I think WC have improved a lot since the SF models. There were some people that didn't like the black traction pad which is different to what's on most boards. Best way is to demo it but it looks like the VFX are selling very quickly as everyone is jumping into winding !

AndyShwartz
WA, 102 posts
22 Jul 2020 9:20PM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
Alysum said..


AndyShwartz said..



Alysum said..




AndyShwartz said..





barney64 said..
Has anyone got any reviews on wave chaser sup foil boards.







I have the 5'10 115 litre 180SF model. Great economical board around half the price of the fancy names. Obviously with the low price theres going to be little things that you will notice but hey they all get trashed if you are having ago.






Could you please give examples of those small things you notice?





have the earlier 180SF model I think it cost $1080. For the price it's great. If you are worried about minor issues probably just spend more.




I think WC have improved a lot since the SF models. There were some people that didn't like the black traction pad which is different to what's on most boards. Best way is to demo it but it looks like the VFX are selling very quickly as everyone is jumping into winding !



For sure. I would go all in, I spoke to WC and they were very helpful and obviously being a business they want my cash however the board size they recommended was bang on.
Good service, yeah deck pad grip is very very subjective and you can replace and fiddle. I really dont like to say anything negative unless I'm ripped off really bad. My WC experience was positive.

I like the look of the new prone boards but might pick up an economical SF prone.

NigelMcBride
NSW, 3 posts
23 Jul 2020 2:16PM
Thumbs Up

G'Day All,

This is literally the first time I've commented in an online forum. I'm Nigel McBride, Owner and MD of Wave Chaser Pty Ltd. Given that the specific questioning here relates to me directly I feel compelled to dive in, so here goes!

1. The "small" issues referred to by Andy Shwartz would be on our first F Series boards designed and manufactured in 2018. Given the early stage of foilboarding, much of the design work and material use was based on general observation and intuition rather than qualified rider feedback. In this phase of development, we found our outer laminates were structurally sound, but a bit heavy, about 1-2kg above expectation across the range. We used 4oz, 6oz and full carbon wrap over 15kg/m3 EPS core foam. Today we use a 20kg/m3 core foam with a full carbon stringer, wrapped in 4oz E Glass, 4oz Biaxial S Glass and a lighter weight carbon wrap. The important factor in the design is adding core strength without weight gain. The current VFX series are 15-25% lighter than previous models. The next issue would be the grip. We initially used a smooth surface, router cut, 5mm EVA, it wasn't the colour that was an issue rather the surface texture, it felt a bit slippery to some riders, not all. Our newer models use a deep brush groove 3mm EVA, thinner, lighter and very grippy underfoot. The displacement pattern groove actually works effectively to remove surface water from the deck, leaving large "dry" surface areas for traction. We'll keep evolving the design and the next run of VFX boards will feature groove cut to full depth, this will save up to 200g per board. We have also focused on our foil track mounts. Working with our QA Manager Danny Villasenor and collaborating on design and manufacturing processes with the likes John Amundson (Amundson Customs), Jerry Mahimana (425 Pro), Mick Slattery (Surefire) and Armstrong Foils, we are confident that our boards feature the best design for purpose track mounts currently available. But we wont stop here, we're thinking ahead to the next generation of foilboards and materials fit for purpose, watch this space.

2. We're no longer producing SF or SFX boards, these boards certainly work very well, however, our shape has evolved dramatically on the back of qualified rider feedback rather than observation and intuition alone. Here, I thank the likes of our dedicated and talented shaper Sam Tehan of Force 9 Surfboards, and Mick Branch and Brad Hampson. These guys have been invaluable in our foilboard evolution since the beginning. Mick and Brad were literally the only regular foilers in the Cronulla region when we started out. Later, Michael Abdilla, and the team at Ozone NZ and a few of the Bluegums crew in VIC helped us truly understand volume distribution over buoyancy and stability, particularly for flight dynamics. This is why our VFX series boards are bullet shaped, with the wide point to the rear of centre, a high deck line and a subtle V or convex bottom from nose to tail. We also focus heavily on the nose rocker through the flat mid to rear section and how that interacts with the beveled rail chines for wing attitude, paddle glide, chop pop and rebound. The tucked in tail section is what makes the VFX really stand out from our previous designs. We found less area here actually improves stability with less propensity for chine walk, not to mention water clearance during banking turns in flight, a benefit we already clearly understood.

3. Keep checking into our social pages for product images and action shots: www.facebook.com/GoFaster.GoFurther and find attached a few recent images for reference.

Ultimately we're aiming to match the bigger brands for performance and weight but at a reasonable price point. I believe we're steadily getting there, but of course we need the support of an increasing customer base. Personally, I'm rewarded by the fulfillment and satisfaction of my customers. When I buy something I expect friendly service with sound advice at a reasonable price...why should I deliver anything less.

I wish you all the very best best and I'm happy to answer any further questons you have.

Nige


















hilly
WA, 5508 posts
23 Jul 2020 9:21PM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
NigelMcBride said..
G'Day All,

This is literally the first time I've commented in an online forum. I'm Nigel McBride, Owner and MD of Wave Chaser Pty Ltd. Given that the specific questioning here relates to me directly I feel compelled to dive in, so here goes!

1. The "small" issues referred to by Andy Shwartz would be on our first F Series boards designed and manufactured in 2018. Given the early stage of foilboarding, much of the design work and material use was based on general observation and intuition rather than qualified rider feedback. In this phase of development, we found our outer laminates were structurally sound, but a bit heavy, about 1-2kg above expectation across the range. We used 4oz, 6oz and full carbon wrap over 15kg/m3 EPS core foam. Today we use a 20kg/m3 core foam with a full carbon stringer, wrapped in 4oz E Glass, 4oz Biaxial S Glass and a lighter weight carbon wrap. The important factor in the design is adding core strength without weight gain. The current VFX series are 15-25% lighter than previous models. The next issue would be the grip. We initially used a smooth surface, router cut, 5mm EVA, it wasn't the colour that was an issue rather the surface texture, it felt a bit slippery to some riders, not all. Our newer models use a deep brush groove 3mm EVA, thinner, lighter and very grippy underfoot. The displacement pattern groove actually works effectively to remove surface water from the deck, leaving large "dry" surface areas for traction. We'll keep evolving the design and the next run of VFX boards will feature groove cut to full depth, this will save up to 200g per board. We have also focused on our foil track mounts. Working with our QA Manager Danny Villasenor and collaborating on design and manufacturing processes with the likes John Amundson (Amundson Customs), Jerry Mahimana (425 Pro), Mick Slattery (Surefire) and Armstrong Foils, we are confident that our boards feature the best design for purpose track mounts currently available. But we wont stop here, we're thinking ahead to the next generation of foilboards and materials fit for purpose, watch this space.

2. We're no longer producing SF or SFX boards, these boards certainly work very well, however, our shape has evolved dramatically on the back of qualified rider feedback rather than observation and intuition alone. Here, I thank the likes of our dedicated and talented shaper Sam Tehan of Force 9 Surfboards, and Mick Branch and Brad Hampson. These guys have been invaluable in our foilboard evolution since the beginning. Mick and Brad were literally the only regular foilers in the Cronulla region when we started out. Later, Michael Abdilla, and the team at Ozone NZ and a few of the Bluegums crew in VIC helped us truly understand volume distribution over buoyancy and stability, particularly for flight dynamics. This is why our VFX series boards are bullet shaped, with the wide point to the rear of centre, a high deck line and a subtle V or convex bottom from nose to tail. We also focus heavily on the nose rocker through the flat mid to rear section and how that interacts with the beveled rail chines for wing attitude, paddle glide, chop pop and rebound. The tucked in tail section is what makes the VFX really stand out from our previous designs. We found less area here actually improves stability with less propensity for chine walk, not to mention water clearance during banking turns in flight, a benefit we already clearly understood.

3. Keep checking into our social pages for product images and action shots: www.facebook.com/GoFaster.GoFurther and find attached a few recent images for reference.

Ultimately we're aiming to match the bigger brands for performance and weight but at a reasonable price point. I believe we're steadily getting there, but of course we need the support of an increasing customer base. Personally, I'm rewarded by the fulfillment and satisfaction of my customers. When I buy something I expect friendly service with sound advice at a reasonable price...why should I deliver anything less.

I wish you all the very best best and I'm happy to answer any further questons you have.

Nige



















Thanks Nigel great info. would love to demo a 185 in WA and get a feel for weight. Early models were a bit porky.

NigelMcBride
NSW, 3 posts
24 Jul 2020 11:06AM
Thumbs Up

I'm sure we can work something out Hilly. A few new VFX have arrived in WA already. Maybe reach out to Jason at West Oz Kiteboarding. We have a fresh production run due for arrival end Sep.

hilly
WA, 5508 posts
24 Jul 2020 11:16AM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
NigelMcBride said..
I'm sure we can work something out Hilly. A few new VFX have arrived in WA already. Maybe reach out to Jason at West Oz Kiteboarding. We have a fresh production run due for arrival end Sep.


Jas has only got the 165 which is a bit small for my 105 kegs

warwickl
NSW, 1468 posts
24 Jul 2020 5:13PM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
hilly said..

NigelMcBride said..
I'm sure we can work something out Hilly. A few new VFX have arrived in WA already. Maybe reach out to Jason at West Oz Kiteboarding. We have a fresh production run due for arrival end Sep.



Jas has only got the 165 which is a bit small for my 105 kegs


You would never switch

NigelMcBride
NSW, 3 posts
25 Jul 2020 9:43AM
Thumbs Up

105kg! Full Forward haha! I'm sure we'll have more boards over your way soon. You might not "switch" but it's always worthwhile comparing performance. The 175/96L or 185/110L would be in your realm.

hilly
WA, 5508 posts
25 Jul 2020 8:02AM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
NigelMcBride said..
105kg! Full Forward haha! I'm sure we'll have more boards over your way soon. You might not "switch" but it's always worthwhile comparing performance. The 175/96L or 185/110L would be in your realm.


Second row or lock usually yes definitely like to try as much kit as I can so I can make good choices. If they are good I will get one. Variety is the spice of life

Alysum
NSW, 520 posts
30 Jul 2020 10:27AM
Thumbs Up

Any other reviews on the VFX ?

I'm wondering whether stepping down from a 5"10/29"/110L to the WC 5"5/25"/87L is not too extreme. I'm 78Kg + gear.

Hank1
8 posts
31 Jul 2020 6:21PM
Thumbs Up

I just found this clip of the the new VFX, the new shape looks insane!! The guy says he is 80kgs and it looks like the 5'5 x 25 x 5 at 87 litres floats him really well. At 6kgs it looks like it releases the water and gets up on foil so easily!
www.instagram.com/p/CC2A1xqje2T/

tomooh
200 posts
Monday , 10 Aug 2020 10:39AM
Thumbs Up

Does anyone know the weight for the 195 board thanks
vfx 195 the newer one

Abdillam
VIC, 226 posts
Wednesday , 12 Aug 2020 10:16PM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
Hank1 said..
I just found this clip of the the new VFX, the new shape looks insane!! The guy says he is 80kgs and it looks like the 5'5 x 25 x 5 at 87 litres floats him really well. At 6kgs it looks like it releases the water and gets up on foil so easily!
www.instagram.com/p/CC2A1xqje2T/



Yep mate that's me in the clip. Love the new board. Releases quickly and definitely plenty enough volume to float me. Currently in stage 4 lockdown in Melbourne so off the water for 6 weeks but can't wait to get back out there




Subscribe
Reply

Forums > Stand Up Paddle Foiling


"Wave chaser sup foil boards" started by tinka