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What size board & foil are you using for prone

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Created by Piros > 9 months ago, 22 Jun 2018
fm1
WA, 50 posts
24 Jul 2018 9:39AM
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Looks great, what's the volume on that 5'6 please and what volume do you normally prone surf - thanks for sharing pics :)

BigSeppo
71 posts
24 Jul 2018 10:04AM
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Thanks FM! Man, I am entirely too large a human. I would guess the volume on this is just above 50 liters.

My shortboard is about 46 liters.

Honestly both paddle underwater for me. Gotta lose a few.

I can catch much smaller waves with the foil than without. Just a tiny bit of technique... Mostly starting low in the wave and letting the tail lift as opposed to paddling in over the back of the wave. Gotta get it pointed down the hill, and I'm good.


fm1
WA, 50 posts
24 Jul 2018 10:50AM
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BigSeppo said..
Thanks FM! Man, I am entirely too large a human. I would guess the volume on this is just above 50 liters.

My shortboard is about 46 liters.

Honestly both paddle underwater for me. Gotta lose a few.

I can catch much smaller waves with the foil than without. Just a tiny bit of technique... Mostly starting low in the wave and letting the tail lift as opposed to paddling in over the back of the wave. Gotta get it pointed down the hill, and I'm good.




Awesome, many thanks, great tips, been sup foiling and having fun so onto the next challenge :), thanks again, your board looks rad and wish you good glides :)

likuid
QLD, 327 posts
31 Jul 2018 11:58AM
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This is the rig I have been running for now .
Slingshot FSurf Foil w/ Infinity 76 wing and Simulator Soft Top 35L 5'6" Foilboard
will be switching down the the 4'6" 32L High Roller when it is released shortly

Jeffs256
NSW, 30 posts
1 Aug 2018 9:17PM
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After 6 months of loyal RMS foiling I'm stepping down a foot and 10 litres to Rex's new 5'0 superlite PU. Nice to have the lines from a surboard shaper, even if it's occasionally above the water.



OceanAddicts
QLD, 350 posts
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2 Aug 2018 9:32AM
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We are totally loving the new Naish Comet. This is Ollie on the 5 2" 35ltr Comet and the Naish Thrust Large wing. Im on the 5 6 Comet 38ltr as I like a like extra length to paddle in on.


All In stock now at Ocean Addicts. Give us a call anytime if you want to chat Foils. 07 53096624 Luke

3 Aug 2018 6:56AM
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I'm using the NEW Jimmy Lewis "Super Fly" prone board (first stock arriving in 2 weeks)... The new models & sizes are shorter, wider, thicker with bevelled rails making them more stable for take-off, easy paddle power & improved flight tie & turning...
5'0" x 19" x 3"
5'4 x 20 x 3 3 1/16"
5'8 x 21 1/4 x 3 3/8"








toppleover
QLD, 1579 posts
26 Aug 2018 8:15PM
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Prone board size recommendations for a 73kg beginner please, long time surfer & have been kite foiling for about 6 months.
Would like to get something that I don't grow out of too quickly - my regular surfboard is 32L.

paul.j
QLD, 2900 posts
27 Aug 2018 1:04AM
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easy and I am biased here haha 4'5 ONE Foil board fully molded full PVC crazy tough and nice and light comes with strap inserts and both foil box options so will fit pretty much any foil.

Still big enough to paddle and it does paddle well as we even just had Jake paddle into river bumps and DW 12km on it. It has nice chimmed rails with a small kick in the tail.

We make a 3'10 and a 5'6 and this is pretty perfect right in the middle and has the best bits of the two above boards.



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toppleover said..
Prone board size recommendations for a 73kg beginner please, long time surfer & have been kite foiling for about 6 months.
Would like to get something that I don't grow out of too quickly - my regular surfboard is 32L.


JB
NSW, 2026 posts
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27 Aug 2018 5:57AM
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This is an interesting topic, as I have have recently decided to go back a little longer with my prone foil board. If you can set up your foil board correctly (mount in a balance position), length is not as critical as you may think it is given all the media out there riding tiny boards.

I am riding the Naish Ascend 5'0" x 22.25 @40ltrs. Whilst this board is still quite small, it is much larger than the 4'8" I was previously riding (and with no issues either) or the Hover 127 (4') or Hover 112 (3'8"). I am 90kg and been foiling now for about 2 years. I like and understand the idea of going super short, but the weigh offs need to be taken into account. Since changing back up to 5'0", my wave count and session length have increased again (like they used to be in the 5'6" to 6'0" days ). I think there is also a lot to be said about actually using your positive swing weight.

Again a lot of this trim-ability comes down to the use of the track and plate mounting, it is mandatory IMHO. 50-100mm can totally change a prone boards characteristics. Increasing swing weight by moving the backwards makes the board far easier to handle more powerful waves and turn harder, tighter and is especially good for hitting white water (round houses & floaters), whilst moving reducing your swing weight by moving the mount further forward makes the board far more responsive to pumping and very lift positive (i.e. you will feel like you're keeping it down as opposed to bringing it up).

I usually say start at the back of your tracks and play as often as you can. I use a marker pen and put measures on my board and when I find a killer setup of a particular condition, I make note. This way I can enjoy perfection the next time I ride.

Anyway, board length. Go short by all means, just be aware of the weigh offs. I pump out, link up and can do everything as I could on a shorter board. Look at where you plan to ride, if it's a lot of paddling, definitely go longer (like the Naish Commet), if it's generally a short paddle with lots of pumping go a little shorter (like the Naish Ascend). Aim around your preferred fish or small wave board volume.

Ride safe,

JB

27 Aug 2018 6:41AM
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I totally agree JB...Between 5'0 & 5'10 is a perfect balance between paddling, flying & pumping...I'm only 80kg & generally only need to use my GoFoil Kai wing to get me back out or to my second wave but if it's tiny waves the IWA is plenty for my 5'8... But I am going down to the new 5'4" this week to compare the paddling difference...A lot of waves I surf have very long paddles back out...




blueplanetsurf
213 posts
4 Oct 2018 2:51AM
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We just received a shipment of our new prone foil surf boards. In this video we go over the three sizes, colors and construction options available as well as the design philosophy behind the shape and specials we have available.
These are the three sizes we have in stock now:
4'10 x 20 x 3.2 x 46.5L
5'4 x 21 x 3.2 x 54L
6'0 x 22 x 3.5 x 69L

Options are bamboo construction- colors are blue bamboo, red bamboo and natural bamboo and in full carbon we have blue/ white and red/ white available in limited supply. Board and foil package deals: $100 off if board and Rock Solid Foil are purchased together, $200 off if board and Blue Planet foil are purchased together. Online pricing includes free air cargo shipping to the nearest US airport and subsidized international air cargo shipping to anywhere in the world.

toppleover
QLD, 1579 posts
6 Oct 2018 4:46PM
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My foil surfboard will be ready soon, advice on tail pad placement would be appreciated.

6 Oct 2018 6:15PM
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A beautiful NEW Carbon custom 4' 10" Marlon Lewis design SuperFly foil board made by Jimmy Lewis for Jim Winniman on Maui that weighs in at around 7lbs (3.17kg) that he caught his wife fondling in the factory....Jim is 65 y/o & still ripping...








7-Nation Aust
QLD, 112 posts
9 Oct 2018 11:49AM
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Just had the first samples of these land in Oz - how's the contour on it!?

2019 Slingshot High Roller Surf Foilboard
sizes are
4' - 29L
4'6" - 32L
5'2" - 39L










AlexF
239 posts
9 Oct 2018 9:22PM
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Could all these surffoil boards also be kitefoiled?
I guess yes.

Beasho
145 posts
10 Oct 2018 1:45AM
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BigSeppo said..
Finally got to try the 5'6 today. Love it!



BigSeppo et al - How do you compare the Prone board to your (Blue Planet) SUP Foilboard?

You were the one who convinced me to go with Blue Planet. I have the 6' 6" and love it. I weigh 185 lbs / 85 kilos.

In Northern California we typically have surf from 4 to 8 feet. In 4 to 5 foot faces I am on the GoFoil Maliko 200 and then the IWA if it is regularly going to be 6 feet or more.

With regards to going Prone vs. SUP foil around here the joke (from Jeff Clark) is "Great you/they are going prone then more waves for me."

Camarillo
212 posts
7 Aug 2019 4:01PM
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I am looking for a prone foilboard for my daughter and I am thinking about getting an Axis board.
axisfoils.com/collections/surf-foil-boards
Any thoughts on these boards?

She is a good supper (without foil until now), an ok surfer and she learned foiling with a Duotone windwing very quickly.
So now she wants to foil
What size should we get? She is 62 kg/135 lbs and 96% of the time we have small, slow and choppy waves

4'0" x 19" x 2.9" 31 litres
4'6" x 19.5" x 2.9" 36 litres
5'0" x 20" x 2.9" 41 litres
5'6" x 20.5" x 3", 47 litres

Clamsmasha
WA, 137 posts
7 Aug 2019 6:36PM
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Maybe the 4'6. She should stroll into waves on that at 62kg.

Camarillo
212 posts
7 Aug 2019 11:46PM
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Clamsmasha said..
Maybe the 4'6. She should stroll into waves on that at 62kg.


I am just afraid that she will struggle with the 4'6 in our small, slow and choppy waves.....

Anybody experience with the Axis prone foilboards?

Camarillo
212 posts
7 Aug 2019 11:46PM
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Clamsmasha said..
Maybe the 4'6. She should stroll into waves on that at 62kg.


I am just afraid that she will struggle with the 4'6 in our small, slow and choppy waves.....

Anybody experience with the Axis prone foilboards?

Clamsmasha
WA, 137 posts
8 Aug 2019 3:33AM
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If the waves you get break, I think 4'6 has enough volume. If she isn't a great paddler or not used to short boards it might take some getting used to.......but she isn't going to get as much enjoyment out of a board that is to heavy and long in the long term

scubaste
WA, 195 posts
8 Aug 2019 6:46AM
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My 4'6" nearly finished
34ltrs.
It's way beyond my skill level at the mo, but should be ok with practice.


colas
3530 posts
8 Aug 2019 2:22PM
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Note that Gong is also exploring "foil longboarding", as an alternative to the pumping-oriented micro boards, foil boards dedicated to a smoother ride, real gliders... They make it easy to catch non-breaking waves if you are not an expert prone foiler, and the slower reaction time can be easier to manage for some.

Granted, it will not be for everybody, but it is nice to have the option. Just like in a lot of conditions you can use either a longboard or a shortboard groveler, or a fish, or a mini-Simmons, or... Production sizes in 7'3" and 9'0": "Carter foil". Here the 9'0":




The board have a special wedge shaped into the hull so that the foil has a proper angle of attack (you can see it at the widest black stripe on the 7'3" below)

Camarillo
212 posts
8 Aug 2019 2:45PM
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Clamsmasha said..
If the waves you get break, I think 4'6 has enough volume. If she isn't a great paddler or not used to short boards it might take some getting used to.......but she isn't going to get as much enjoyment out of a board that is to heavy and long in the long term



She is surfing (without foil) on a 6'4 because of the crappy waves , 4'6 is a lot shorter.

Perhaps better to take the 5'0 , catching more waves is very important

Camarillo
212 posts
9 Aug 2019 4:30PM
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The bevels and the kick in the tail that a lot of foil sups and foil surfboards have , are they any good for a foil surfboard?

Seems to me that you don't need the tailkick but can you also do without the bevels?

And what about installing foot straps to waterstart with a windwing?

mattllew
53 posts
9 Aug 2019 5:39PM
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kane de wilde (who in my worthless opinion based solely on instagram... is probably the best there is on a prone foil) doesnt bother with bevels or a tail kick. I think it matters more on a 27" wide SUP foil board where you're trying to get the 'stickiness' down and catch less in turns. On a 20/21" wide board its probably less of a big deal. I've got 2 prone boards, one with very subtle (barely noticeable) bevels and one with a more pronouced bevels and I'm damned if I can notice the difference. The one with pronounced bevels is an inch wider though so maybe thats what it does... effectively make it feel narrower.

Clamsmasha
WA, 137 posts
9 Aug 2019 8:39PM
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The tail kick isn't much use for shorter boards, the mast is too far back for tail clearance to be an issue.

Ive done boards with and without bevels. I kept mine more vertical (less wrapped around the bottom) to retain volume and planing area.

Personally I think they are useful...they stop the board from sucking into the face when taking off or when I touchdown on the wave, and seem to release better when touching down on flat water or ploughing through chop while pumping. They also add a small amount of clearance when on rail. Not much, but one little kiss can kill the ride sometimes....

I feel they have been fairly useful as I've pulled the mast back to concentrate on hard low turns which often end in a touchdown on the rail.

I tested the theory a bit for myself when I took of my foil, chucked on my flippers and used my little 3'11" as a paipo. The rail is virtually allergic to wave face. Really hard to pull in.



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