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What size board & foil are you using for prone

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Created by Piros > 9 months ago, 22 Jun 2018
fatfish96
8 posts
Thursday , 29 Jul 2020 11:45PM
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Thought that i would revive this old thread instead of starting a new one.

So I am a recent convert from Sup to Prone foil. I learned to foil on a sup. Due to the beach closures that we were having here in So Cal, I found a good deal on a slightly used prone board NSP 5'6 45l. It was easier to bike in with a smaller prone board vs my sup. To make matters more interesting I sold my sup and have another one on order. So i only have the prone now.

The good side is that after dedicating the last 15 or so sessions i am feeling comfortable catching and riding the smaller waves. It is really freeing riding a smaller board. I am toying with the idea of downsizing the prone board, just not sure what size to shoot for. I am 5'9 170lb and mid 50s.

Is there a target length that makes pumping back out easier to achieve? Or should i be able to do it on my current one and i just need to work on my skills? The 5'6 is comfortable to paddle around and gets me into a lot of waves. I still plan on sup foiling too when i get my new board, i just like the diversity.

Thanks for your thoughts

Hdip
78 posts
Thursday , 30 Jul 2020 12:28AM
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To pump, the sweet spot is between 4'2" - 4'6" is what I always hear. I ride a 4'8" and it's a touch to long, but good enough I'm not buying another board since I'd rather spend my money on wings.

juandesooka
360 posts
Thursday , 30 Jul 2020 3:24AM
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Wow, fun to look back at this thread ... a lot of evolution in boards just in 2 short years! Sometimes forget how new this surf foil thing is.

Fatfish: I too have also mostly transitioned from SUP to surf foil, I still have the sup set up for the right day, but if it is surf foilable, that's my first choice always. Just so much more maneuverable and fun. I am on a 5' x 21 x 2.75, it floats me fine with a 5mm wetsuit. I am far from a pump monkey, just barely almost kinda on the verge of getting my first 2 for 1. It seems to pump pretty decent. I am guessing high 30s in volume? Prior board was a 5' x 20 x 3.5', way more floaty, really easy to paddle and take off, but also felt fairly chunky underfoot (45L ish?). In between is a copy of armstrong board, 4'9"x20x3, guessing low 30s. It is super fun once up and riding, but the paddling is killer ... good for about an hour, then the arms are noodled from moving the sinker. There's a trade off in board riding performance vs in ease of paddling and catching waves....have to find that happy place for you.

Also an interesting sidenote: our main foiling wave is a rivermouth, the water flows pretty strong in our winter surf season. Transitioning into spring, with less water flow, holy crap is it ever harder work paddling ... realized we are surf foiling a little conveyor belt. Add in fresh water vs salt water, plus surfing against a current, all sorts of variables added compared to regular surf spots. So maybe these variables also affect board choice. I wonder if we could get away with lower volume boards in summer (if there were any waves) - will have to test out the theory travelling someday. :-)

toppleover
QLD, 1690 posts
Thursday , 30 Jul 2020 5:58AM
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Hi fatfish, imo your 5'6 is a good size to learn the basics on but once your up & flying will hold your progression back.

Pumping back does seem easier on the shorter boards but it's still mainly the riders skill & using a good pump wing.

I'd recommend getting a board around 4'6 when you know your ready mate.

colas
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Thursday , 30 Jul 2020 11:38AM
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Gorgo said..
I am curious about prone foiling. In my head I have this idea of needing to be a super surfer to get up on a tiny board with a foil on the bottom. I wonder if that is true.



I just read this morning this testimony: A guy that was a decent SUP foiler but didn't manage to surf foil a 4'5" SImmons-like board.
So a medium board with a foil can be MUCH easier to learn prone foiling than a tiny board. Even if you most probably want a tiny board later on.

"First time surf foiling on a 7'3".
In spite of my experience on various foil and surfboards, my attempts at prone surf Foiling have all been a failure (Gong Foils Allvator in M, L, Rise XXL, Curve XL).
Until this session on the 7'3" Carter! Incredible sensations from the first take-off, the position switch is perfectly smooth between the paddling and the flight, if the pop-up is successful then the take-off is natural, and you let yourself be carried, it's stable and soft, airy and smooth
Totally reassuring, it's a change from mini boards!
I'm going to progress on this shape for sure :)"

AndyShwartz
WA, 95 posts
Friday , 31 Jul 2020 7:46AM
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These Spacelab boards are interesting with silicon cush decking and pronounced arch bar.

www.instagram.com/p/CDSBf8SD3Xb/?igshid=pynkh4phstxs

hilly
WA, 5484 posts
Friday , 31 Jul 2020 8:13AM
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AndyShwartz said..
These Spacelab boards are interesting with silicon cush decking and pronounced arch bar.

www.instagram.com/p/CDSBf8SD3Xb/?igshid=pynkh4phstxs


That is one ugly 7 footer
Prone board looks good.

AndyShwartz
WA, 95 posts
Friday , 31 Jul 2020 7:34PM
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hilly said..


AndyShwartz said..
These Spacelab boards are interesting with silicon cush decking and pronounced arch bar.

www.instagram.com/p/CDSBf8SD3Xb/?igshid=pynkh4phstxs




That is one ugly 7 footer
Prone board looks good.



Yup the SUP is ugly.

I'm looking to buy my first prone board. I want something easy to paddle, catch waves dont care if I go straight. Any recommendations I'm 75kg.

I'm looking for something for a learner. If I didnt buy the Maliko 280 to wingding I would of given up. Please help! I'm in the 'dad bod" category and did find the namesake. Not sure...plus foil waves are not common here so not much.

rideengine.com.au/collections/foil-boards/products/dad-board-foil-surfboard-52

Pasquales
9 posts
Monday , 3 Aug 2020 12:47PM
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I learned to prone foil on a 5'6" x 21" x 3 " epoxy a buddy made. Don't know the exact volume. With the large surf foil from Cloud IX, it was more than enough buoyancy for my 90 kgs. What I didn't like was not being able to pump. This could have been due to the board size, dunno. The foil also didn't meet my expectations for winging. I hear the new versions have come a long way, but that's irrelevant as I sold it.

hilly
WA, 5484 posts
Monday , 3 Aug 2020 12:52PM
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AndyShwartz said..

hilly said..



AndyShwartz said..
These Spacelab boards are interesting with silicon cush decking and pronounced arch bar.

www.instagram.com/p/CDSBf8SD3Xb/?igshid=pynkh4phstxs





That is one ugly 7 footer
Prone board looks good.




Yup the SUP is ugly.

I'm looking to buy my first prone board. I want something easy to paddle, catch waves dont care if I go straight. Any recommendations I'm 75kg.

I'm looking for something for a learner. If I didnt buy the Maliko 280 to wingding I would of given up. Please help! I'm in the 'dad bod" category and did find the namesake. Not sure...plus foil waves are not common here so not much.

rideengine.com.au/collections/foil-boards/products/dad-board-foil-surfboard-52


See Marty at Delta designs ask for one like Drew Beavis is riding.

AndyShwartz
WA, 95 posts
Monday , 3 Aug 2020 7:09PM
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hilly said..

AndyShwartz said..


hilly said..




AndyShwartz said..
These Spacelab boards are interesting with silicon cush decking and pronounced arch bar.

www.instagram.com/p/CDSBf8SD3Xb/?igshid=pynkh4phstxs






That is one ugly 7 footer
Prone board looks good.





Yup the SUP is ugly.

I'm looking to buy my first prone board. I want something easy to paddle, catch waves dont care if I go straight. Any recommendations I'm 75kg.

I'm looking for something for a learner. If I didnt buy the Maliko 280 to wingding I would of given up. Please help! I'm in the 'dad bod" category and did find the namesake. Not sure...plus foil waves are not common here so not much.

rideengine.com.au/collections/foil-boards/products/dad-board-foil-surfboard-52



See Marty at Delta designs ask for one like Drew Beavis is riding.


Thanks I will give him a call



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