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Created by bigmtn 4 months ago, 28 Jan 2020
bigmtn
24 posts
28 Jan 2020 4:19AM
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Been riding the 900 with the short fuse and 400 stab for a few months now. Prone board (4'7 and a 4'3), I'm 6'2" 170lbs. Really liking it but want to make it looser and better at turning. For those that have played around with the new stuff, what will give me the most bang for my buck?

ultra short fuse - $330
370 rear wing - $185
340 rear wing - $181

I live in Hawaii, so the waves usually have plenty of juice.

haha I'm getting a lil tired of throwing money into the sport. I realize the best option is the ultra short and a smaller stab, but I kind of only want to get 1 of the above for now. Which would you choose?

toppleover
QLD, 1663 posts
28 Jan 2020 6:36AM
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I'd get the ultra-short & look into chopping your 400

bigtone667
NSW, 1199 posts
28 Jan 2020 8:04AM
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The ultra short fuselage is like going from a town car to an formula one car. A shrinking your rear wing will loosen stuff up as well.
Go the fuselage first.

Piros
QLD, 5851 posts
28 Jan 2020 7:08AM
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100% the ultra short fuse first lol at a new tail but cutting down the 400 definitely an option . Your question is a really common one " I love the 900 but want to loosen it up" It's time for a Axis dedicated high performance surf wing . There is a proto tweaked 85 floating around . The new 66 is pretty cool for towing / kiting and smaller prone guys but just too small guys my size . Adrian is always onto the R&D so interesting to see what's next but definite gap in the range right now.

bigmtn
24 posts
28 Jan 2020 7:49AM
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Thanks, I figured that would be the answer, just wanted to hear it from someone who has made the change and could give me an idea of how much of a difference it would make.

scubaste
WA, 210 posts
28 Jan 2020 8:16AM
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bigmtn said..
Thanks, I figured that would be the answer, just wanted to hear it from someone who has made the change and could give me an idea of how much of a difference it would make.


Make yourself a 370mm wing, really not that hard




Clamsmasha
WA, 188 posts
28 Jan 2020 8:39AM
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scubaste said..

bigmtn said..
Thanks, I figured that would be the answer, just wanted to hear it from someone who has made the change and could give me an idea of how much of a difference it would make.



Make yourself a 370mm wing, really not that hard





Well that looks like it came out mint!

JEG
VIC, 1469 posts
28 Jan 2020 12:44PM
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scubaste said..

bigmtn said..
Thanks, I figured that would be the answer, just wanted to hear it from someone who has made the change and could give me an idea of how much of a difference it would make.



Make yourself a 370mm wing, really not that hard





make us some Gofoil tails too please

oceansalt
QLD, 6 posts
28 Jan 2020 1:22PM
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Go the 340. It's a game changer. If that's not loos enough add the ultra short.

scubaste
WA, 210 posts
28 Jan 2020 11:48AM
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Clamsmasha said..


scubaste said..



bigmtn said..
Thanks, I figured that would be the answer, just wanted to hear it from someone who has made the change and could give me an idea of how much of a difference it would make.





Make yourself a 370mm wing, really not that hard





Well that looks like it came out mint!



Thanks man

scubaste
WA, 210 posts
28 Jan 2020 11:55AM
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JEG said..

scubaste said..


bigmtn said..
Thanks, I figured that would be the answer, just wanted to hear it from someone who has made the change and could give me an idea of how much of a difference it would make.




Make yourself a 370mm wing, really not that hard





make us some Gofoil tails too please


No worries Jeg.

frenchfoiler
154 posts
28 Jan 2020 3:47PM
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bigmtn said..
Been riding the 900 with the short fuse and 400 stab for a few months now. Prone board (4'7 and a 4'3), I'm 6'2" 170lbs. Really liking it but want to make it looser and better at turning. For those that have played around with the new stuff, what will give me the most bang for my buck?

ultra short fuse - $330
370 rear wing - $185
340 rear wing - $181

I live in Hawaii, so the waves usually have plenty of juice.

haha I'm getting a lil tired of throwing money into the sport. I realize the best option is the ultra short and a smaller stab, but I kind of only want to get 1 of the above for now. Which would you choose?


Agree, I have ultrashort fus and 370 and I can feel it is better for sure, I think I'm gonna chop my 400 to see how it goes.

The 660 front wing would be a good option especially for good waves, as it is really good for turning tighter and harder but you will have to sacrifice the pumping (still you can pump back out but not as easy as the 900).

I think we will see some new wings coming up, so the best and cheapest is to get the new ultrashort fus and chop your 400.

frenchfoiler
154 posts
22 Mar 2020 8:34PM
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Surf foiling with the 900/ultrashortfus/370/75cm mast and 4'3 x 19 x 2.9 - 31L

www.instagram.com/p/B-AJtIVoa2x/

hilly
WA, 5262 posts
22 Mar 2020 9:10PM
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Surf foiling with the 900/ultrashortfus/370/75cm mast and 4'3 x 19 x 2.9 - 31L

www.instagram.com/p/B-AJtIVoa2x/



Disclaimer I cannot pump to save my life. However I do not see that as surf foiling. He just pumped around and went straight on the swell. Which is what HA foils do really well. So it was a pump video.

frenchfoiler
154 posts
22 Mar 2020 10:32PM
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hilly said..


frenchfoiler said..
Surf foiling with the 900/ultrashortfus/370/75cm mast and 4'3 x 19 x 2.9 - 31L

www.instagram.com/p/B-AJtIVoa2x/





Disclaimer I cannot pump to save my life. However I do not see that as surf foiling. He just pumped around and went straight on the swell. Which is what HA foils do really well. So it was a pump video.



I agree, in this video I pump more than I surf the wave, but the wave was super tricky to surf, super shallow and lots of moving water, so the best option was to catch a small wave inside and pump back out to bigger non breaking wave and do a carving turn outside. The feeling of carving onto an up coming wave is really nice, trying to not pump at all on this part on be as sharp as possible (work in progress). Just another way to ride, on the wave and between.

This is the good thing with video, you can see what is wrong and I do reaslize I need to surf more the face of the wave and this is the hard part.

Hank1
7 posts
23 Mar 2020 4:43AM
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Has anyone cut the tips off the 900 wing?

frenchfoiler
154 posts
23 Mar 2020 3:17PM
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Hank1 said..
Has anyone cut the tips off the 900 wing?


I don't mind cutting a back wing as it is not too expensive but a front wing is too expensive to try.

jondrums
16 posts
24 Mar 2020 4:55AM
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chopped gofoil 210 here (not mine)
forum.surfer.com/index.php?attachments/46d2adf5-f63b-4877-990c-18e759e3b952-jpeg.87717/

spoiler - he glued it back together after trying it once

my favorite quote from the thread:"John, that is my very much cherished 210. I'd had a few drinks, I noticed the hacksaw trying to get my attention from across the bar, tryed to ignore her..but the jungle drums were beating and we both woke up feeling used."

Jedibrad
NSW, 508 posts
24 Mar 2020 11:30AM
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900 is a great wing but is never going to let lean right over
Since I've gone ultra short and chopped 500 for everything I've retried all my old wings. Addicted to the 68 for prone, 900 Sup, 92 for wingding

Holoholo
59 posts
24 Mar 2020 12:43PM
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Anyone have feedback on the 750 for prone? I primarily ride the 900 but do have a 750 available for cheap price.

Jedibrad
NSW, 508 posts
24 Mar 2020 4:56PM
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I'm about 78 kg and the 750 sits in no mans land for me, too small for good pumping and 68 turns way better

Hank1
7 posts
24 Mar 2020 2:01PM
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Forget about the 750!! Cut down the 900 and let us know how it goes, I reckon you will be pumping and turning like a cat on a hot tin roof!!

Jedibrad
NSW, 508 posts
24 Mar 2020 7:03PM
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Hey hank cut it down let me know ??

Camarillo
266 posts
24 Mar 2020 4:44PM
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Jedibrad said..
900 is a great wing but is never going to let lean right over
Since I've gone ultra short and chopped 500 for everything I've retried all my old wings. Addicted to the 68 for prone, 900 Sup, 92 for wingding




Is the chopped 500 that much better than the 440 or the 400? And how wide did you make it?

Do you prefer the ultrashort also for Sup and Wingding?

Jedibrad
NSW, 508 posts
24 Mar 2020 8:10PM
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Cut just before it turns up
Turns better, and recovers from tail breach
I did cut a smaller one but didn't like it. Although that was a while ago and I have been trying to pump like keahi with feet closer and slower so I should try it again

Camarillo
266 posts
27 Mar 2020 4:47PM
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Thanks , I will start with taking 1 cm off on both sides , all the time in the world now , 3 weeks lockdown...
Can you post some pictures off your modified 500?

I preordered the (new) ultrashort fuse, a 76 carbon mast, the S1010 and the 460 rear a long time ago....




warwickl
NSW, 1413 posts
27 Mar 2020 8:39PM
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Moses gear works for me.

Alysum
NSW, 460 posts
30 Mar 2020 3:36PM
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I'm on the 680/400 short fuselage, 75cm mast for kite foiling.

I wish to get into winging and maybe SUP foiling, I've read good things about the ha 1000 wing got winging, but is it enough surface for SUP ? Or do people run a separate wing for SUP (like 920) and winging ?

tightlines
WA, 3267 posts
30 Mar 2020 1:03PM
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The 1000 is my go to for winging and SUP foiling.
I do use the 1020 occasionally when the wind is very light or the 900 if it's really windy, or for bigger surf on the SUP.

Alysum
NSW, 460 posts
30 Mar 2020 4:37PM
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The 1000 is my go to for winging and SUP foiling.
I do use the 1020 occasionally when the wind is very light or the 900 if it's really windy, or for bigger surf on the SUP.


Thanks - sounds like 1000/1020 would be a good combo

tightlines
WA, 3267 posts
30 Mar 2020 4:40PM
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Alysum said..

tightlines said..
The 1000 is my go to for winging and SUP foiling.
I do use the 1020 occasionally when the wind is very light or the 900 if it's really windy, or for bigger surf on the SUP.



Thanks - sounds like 1000/1020 would be a good combo


Or a 900/101.

The 102 is fairly slow and draggy but will get you going earlier.
I tried the 101 once it will definitely get foiling easier than the 1000 but is still fairly fast and slippery compared to the 102.
I have not been able to get my hands on one though.
It's always a tough choice and a compromise if you want to SUP in waves and wing, but for me at 85kg if I could only have one it would probably be the 1000.
I'm sure others would have different ideas though.



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