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Adventure King 10'6 or Aqua Marina Beast

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Created by simonhmorgan Two weeks ago, 5 Feb 2020
simonhmorgan
4 posts
5 Feb 2020 12:00PM
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I know there is a significant difference between the two boards ive listed, but i wanted to check:

I am 110kg and 186cm - i tried an Aqua Marina Pure Air (which was 10'2 x 30" wide and 4" thick and 110kg weight limit) and really struggled to balance. i know a big part of that is me and my skill/fitness but i wondered if a larger board is likely to help at all.
i found with the Pure Air the surface of the board in the middle was slightly underwater - but only just splashing.

i found the adventure king 10'6 board which is 32" wide, 6" thick and has a 150kg weight limit.
from what ive read (despite still needing a LOT to learn about balance) the additional size and volume is likely to at least help with keeping the board above the surface and maybe marginally more stable and steady while im trying to learn?
Also that for someone tall and large like me, the width is probably better?

the other option is the Aqua Marina Beast, which is similar spec to Adventure King in size etc, but double the price?

Any advice would be very welcomed about the best options - or is it really just a matter of practice to get some balance.

PS - my 9yo daughter got the 9' Aqua Marina Pure Air Youth, and has never fallen off yet!

Thanks

LastSupper
VIC, 176 posts
5 Feb 2020 9:38PM
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Feck the blowups off ! If u want to paddle for real and long time you not going to do it on an inflatable condom!

colas
3654 posts
5 Feb 2020 8:05PM
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At 110kg and 185cm you need width, at the very least 32", and volume, at least 170 liters.

You also need stiffness, so 6" thickness (not 4"), and a quality construction which will make the board stiffer than the one you tried with is single-skin. Look for double skin boards. And it MUCH better go too big than too small.

Do not listen to the snobs, (good) inflatables are perfectly fine for flat water paddling (the Gong shaper recently said that he now uses only inflatables for flat water fitness paddling). It is only for surfing in waves that they suffer major disadvantages compared to hard boards.

simonhmorgan
4 posts
6 Feb 2020 11:49AM
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colas said..
At 110kg and 185cm you need width, at the very least 32", and volume, at least 170 liters.

You also need stiffness, so 6" thickness (not 4"), and a quality construction which will make the board stiffer than the one you tried with is single-skin. Look for double skin boards. And it MUCH better go too big than too small.

Do not listen to the snobs, (good) inflatables are perfectly fine for flat water paddling (the Gong shaper recently said that he now uses only inflatables for flat water fitness paddling). It is only for surfing in waves that they suffer major disadvantages compared to hard boards.


Thanks Colas for the helpful information and advice!!!!

LastSupper
VIC, 176 posts
8 Feb 2020 10:42PM
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I was only offering some advise Colas as i know the brands ! Why spend money on an inferior product thats bound to fail ! Plenty of good sh big boards that r cheaper than the rubbish on offer and as i only see one reply im assuming you have called me a snob !

colas
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9 Feb 2020 2:47PM
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LastSupper said..
you have called me a snob !



Because you uttered an unsubstantiated claim, that was not helping Simon to find the board which would be the best for him. Tell me, how just comparing all inflatables to a condom is not making you appear as a snob/fanboy/... ?

For recreational cruising on flat water, the convenience of an inflatable and its resistance to dings is not to be overlooked. A hard board in the hand of a novice who does not have the experience to check for dings and repair them will often become a waterlogged wreck fast.

Did you try a modern inflatable?PS: hard boards flex, too :-)

supthecreek
1885 posts
9 Feb 2020 10:19PM
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simonhmorgan said..
I know there is a significant difference between the two boards ive listed, but i wanted to check:

I am 110kg and 186cm - i tried an Aqua Marina Pure Air (which was 10'2 x 30" wide and 4" thick and 110kg weight limit) and really struggled to balance. i know a big part of that is me and my skill/fitness but i wondered if a larger board is likely to help at all.
i found with the Pure Air the surface of the board in the middle was slightly underwater - but only just splashing.

i found the adventure king 10'6 board which is 32" wide, 6" thick and has a 150kg weight limit.
from what ive read (despite still needing a LOT to learn about balance) the additional size and volume is likely to at least help with keeping the board above the surface and maybe marginally more stable and steady while im trying to learn?
Also that for someone tall and large like me, the width is probably better?

the other option is the Aqua Marina Beast, which is similar spec to Adventure King in size etc, but double the price?

Any advice would be very welcomed about the best options - or is it really just a matter of practice to get some balance.

PS - my 9yo daughter got the 9' Aqua Marina Pure Air Youth, and has never fallen off yet!

Thanks


Hi Simon

When teaching, we use 12' x 34" 250 liters
Small women or large men.... this size make learning fun and immediate.

Since you have a 9 year old, I am guessing that you are fairly young.... and that means a LOT when learning to paddle SUP.
Your learning curve should be fairly fast.

Just make sure that you get a board that is wide enough.... I say at least 32" wide
If you are really fit, you could survive with less....

if less fit.... wider than 32" is much better
At 6'1, 110 kg, you would probably learn faster on something 34" wide.... and 10' or longer

Inflatables can be stiff and stable if they are pumped up to enough air pressure (PSI)
Inexpensive inflatables are not generally designed to handle high pressure.... and will easily bend in the middle with a big guy on them.
Quality inflatables can handle 21 PSI and above.... at that pressure, they are stiff enough for a heavy guy to paddle comfortably.

If storage and transport isn't an issue, finding a nice used hard board around 11' x 33" at over 170 liters would make learning a lot more fun.

Enjoy your dive into paddling!

LastSupper
VIC, 176 posts
10 Feb 2020 4:52PM
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supthecreek said..

simonhmorgan said..
I know there is a significant difference between the two boards ive listed, but i wanted to check:

I am 110kg and 186cm - i tried an Aqua Marina Pure Air (which was 10'2 x 30" wide and 4" thick and 110kg weight limit) and really struggled to balance. i know a big part of that is me and my skill/fitness but i wondered if a larger board is likely to help at all.
i found with the Pure Air the surface of the board in the middle was slightly underwater - but only just splashing.

i found the adventure king 10'6 board which is 32" wide, 6" thick and has a 150kg weight limit.
from what ive read (despite still needing a LOT to learn about balance) the additional size and volume is likely to at least help with keeping the board above the surface and maybe marginally more stable and steady while im trying to learn?
Also that for someone tall and large like me, the width is probably better?

the other option is the Aqua Marina Beast, which is similar spec to Adventure King in size etc, but double the price?

Any advice would be very welcomed about the best options - or is it really just a matter of practice to get some balance.

PS - my 9yo daughter got the 9' Aqua Marina Pure Air Youth, and has never fallen off yet!

Thanks



Hi Simon

When teaching, we use 12' x 34" 250 liters
Small women or large men.... this size make learning fun and immediate.

Since you have a 9 year old, I am guessing that you are fairly young.... and that means a LOT when learning to paddle SUP.
Your learning curve should be fairly fast.

Just make sure that you get a board that is wide enough.... I say at least 32" wide
If you are really fit, you could survive with less....

if less fit.... wider than 32" is much better
At 6'1, 110 kg, you would probably learn faster on something 34" wide.... and 10' or longer

Inflatables can be stiff and stable if they are pumped up to enough air pressure (PSI)
Inexpensive inflatables are not generally designed to handle high pressure.... and will easily bend in the middle with a big guy on them.
Quality inflatables can handle 21 PSI and above.... at that pressure, they are stiff enough for a heavy guy to paddle comfortably.

If storage and transport isn't an issue, finding a nice used hard board around 11' x 33" at over 170 liters would make learning a lot more fun.

Enjoy your dive into paddling!



Thanks creek ! Thats what i was trying to say in around about way ! The boards mentioned were not the sick 14 that was used by nong ambasador ! If your going to sup you need stability and lower centre of gravity which a blow up board does not have unless you want to learn on a pond ! So Simon if you read this and you have the storage for a hard board do yourself a favour especially if your taking it to the coast ! Ps im not biased but BB is lite years ahead of most !

Lyshco
2 posts
10 Feb 2020 7:04PM
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Hey mate, I'm looking at getting an inflatable too and noticed the Aqua Marina Monster is now $399 at anaconda.

colas
3654 posts
10 Feb 2020 8:35PM
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PS: hard boards flex, too :-)


Just to be clear: the above video was not to badmouth any specific brand. Try it yourself on non-carbon long boards of any brand, you will be surprised.

My point was to say that you do not have wobbly junk inflatables on one side, and super-duper hard boards on the others. As always, board construction on hard boards or inflatables is a compromise: lightness, rigidity/durability, cheap price: you can only pick two :-)

To get back to Simon, you did not tell use what is your intended use: pure flat water, or also some surfing? For SUP surfing beginners, inflatables are not recommended, they are actually harder to use than hard boards.

simonhmorgan
4 posts
12 Feb 2020 10:17AM
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supthecreek said..

simonhmorgan said..
I know there is a significant difference between the two boards ive listed, but i wanted to check:

I am 110kg and 186cm - i tried an Aqua Marina Pure Air (which was 10'2 x 30" wide and 4" thick and 110kg weight limit) and really struggled to balance. i know a big part of that is me and my skill/fitness but i wondered if a larger board is likely to help at all.
i found with the Pure Air the surface of the board in the middle was slightly underwater - but only just splashing.

i found the adventure king 10'6 board which is 32" wide, 6" thick and has a 150kg weight limit.
from what ive read (despite still needing a LOT to learn about balance) the additional size and volume is likely to at least help with keeping the board above the surface and maybe marginally more stable and steady while im trying to learn?
Also that for someone tall and large like me, the width is probably better?

the other option is the Aqua Marina Beast, which is similar spec to Adventure King in size etc, but double the price?

Any advice would be very welcomed about the best options - or is it really just a matter of practice to get some balance.

PS - my 9yo daughter got the 9' Aqua Marina Pure Air Youth, and has never fallen off yet!

Thanks



Hi Simon

When teaching, we use 12' x 34" 250 liters
Small women or large men.... this size make learning fun and immediate.

Since you have a 9 year old, I am guessing that you are fairly young.... and that means a LOT when learning to paddle SUP.
Your learning curve should be fairly fast.

Just make sure that you get a board that is wide enough.... I say at least 32" wide
If you are really fit, you could survive with less....

if less fit.... wider than 32" is much better
At 6'1, 110 kg, you would probably learn faster on something 34" wide.... and 10' or longer

Inflatables can be stiff and stable if they are pumped up to enough air pressure (PSI)
Inexpensive inflatables are not generally designed to handle high pressure.... and will easily bend in the middle with a big guy on them.
Quality inflatables can handle 21 PSI and above.... at that pressure, they are stiff enough for a heavy guy to paddle comfortably.

If storage and transport isn't an issue, finding a nice used hard board around 11' x 33" at over 170 liters would make learning a lot more fun.

Enjoy your dive into paddling!



Thanks for the helpful advice.
Although having a 9yo, i am 46 and not fit!

the Adventure Kings board im looking at is 32" wide, 10'6 long, and listed as 210L at 15PSI.
Seems to get decent reviews and i have feedback from another 6ft tall, 100kg guy that it works well for him with no flex.

I just wasnt sure whether the additional L and double lining on the Aqua Marina BEAST (at 300L and double lined) was worth double the $ for me as a beginner.

BTW - we plan on no surfing, only flat lake, river paddles with the daughter on her Aqua Marina 9' board.

I think im prepared to give the Adventure King a go - it seems decent for the price

And totally understand that a big part of it comes down to my own fitness and core strength - im not expecting miracles!

simonhmorgan
4 posts
12 Feb 2020 10:58AM
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Does the shape of the board have a big influence?

the two im looking at are310cm x 82cm x 15cm but very different shapes - resulting in very different volume

The cheaper Adventure Kings is 200L
The dearer Aqua Marina is listed as 310L

i assume due to the width (aqua marina is wider along the full length) and nowhere near as pointy?


Adventure Kings - $280

Aqua Marina - $499






colas
3654 posts
12 Feb 2020 3:07PM
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The pointy noses are less stable, but paddling with them is more satisfying, as they part water and chop and have less drag.

Wider nosed boards are more fun for paddling with kids and/or wife, fishing... and the very stable feel can feel more reassuring.



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