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Created by cantSUPenough 1 month ago, 4 Oct 2021
cantSUPenough
VIC, 2040 posts
24 Oct 2021 8:29AM
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supthecreek said..
Purely speculation, but....

I just ordered a GenRation SP24 for my bigger hurricane swells.
I surf point and reefs that require more paddle power as well.
But...mostly because the locals use really big boards and take off on everything, way outside of me on my smaller boards.

So I went with some length and ordered the 9'7 SP24

I'll have to wait till after I have actually ridden it to have an opinion, but after riding most of their boards and surfing with these guys in some solid OH Mexican surf, I believe what they have to say about their boards, so I'll let them say it.
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Here's the blub off the website:

Sean Poynter (SP) signature model.
The SP24 is Sean Poynter's go-to board for doing his best surfing in mid to larger size surf.

The ultra high-performance board for medium to large surf. Ideal for waves that have more curvature and power to them.
This board was created to be the high performance step up from the SP25 and allows you to push your rail turns, top turns and airs as much as possible with the least resistance.
With a narrower outline, increased rocker, pinched rails and a slightly stiffer fin set up, this board is made for speed, control and next-level surfing.
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All I know is it's a sweet looking shape and I am stoked to give it a go!






Thanks STC. It is a nice shape...

I had looked at the SP24 and was not sure what to make of it...

On the one hand, it talks about getting vertical and airs, but then it talks about performing in bigger waves. As you know, Sunova has the Throttle and Insane for the "bigger" waves, but they are narrower with a pin tail. So I was not sure where the SP24 fit.

Also, the 9'7 is almost 33" wide - but perhaps I would be glad of that when it gets lumpy. Maybe I could go for the 9'4 at 32" wide...


Lizardman
VIC, 47 posts
28 Oct 2021 7:39AM
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cantSUPenough said..
Where I normally surf (Big Left, Flinders) it often gets above head height and quite powerful, and when it does it gets very "lumpy" - lots of water moving around, surges from the reef below, etc. It is 1 km off-shore and it does not take much wind to get some chop going. The last thing you need when the bigger waves come is to bobble, or worse, fall off...

The waves are often quite big and full, so you need board speed in order to catch them - or you have to survive late drops...

I ride my 8'7 Placid up to that size of wave. As it gets bigger I find I either miss the wave or have to catch it late. I might survive the drop, but you have to pick the perfect position to avoid a close-out. Plus it gets tiring dealing with the lumpy conditions.

Normally I turn to my 9'4 Acid (31.5 wide, 136L), but I am looking for something a bit different. The Acid does not seem to be a lot more stable than the Placid. Plus, at speed, I find it hard to turn. That may be the fins, and it may be my lack of skill.

I bought a 9'11 Insane, but it is 29" wide and just too tippy.

I used to ride my bigger Speed out there but sometimes the nose would catch on the late drops, and I never like having to jump on the tail to turn it.

I think I need something that is long enough to catch the wave, wide enough (in the right places) so it is stable, thin enough (especially in the rails) so it is not corky and so that it will still bite into the face of the wave.

When it gets bigger I am not as fussed about maneuverability, but it needs to be able to go top to bottom and cut back so I can get back towards the pocket.

I have lots of Sunovas and the only board I can see that stays slim as it gets bigger is the Flash. So many of the new generation get real fat (high volume) when they get longer.

I am 6'3/192, 59 (staring down 60!), and usually around 100 kg in the winter...

Sorry for the essay. Any suggestions?


Crunchy Point is my closest local surf break and as i surf alone most of the time I feel its safer for me. Also since the lockdowns we have had I have barely been out sup Surfing and would almost be back to beginner status so better I surf there and Point Roadknight for a while. Only downside is that they are so busy. I have a new 8'7 Placid and a near new 10' Starboard Longboard both purchased about 5 months ago and I havent put them in the water yet, hopefully after Cup weekend I will be able to try them out. I would like to try some other surf spots down Flinders way so maybe in the near future we could meet up down there. Cheers and stay safe.

Jacksboards
VIC, 181 posts
5 Nov 2021 9:07AM
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Big Left


stehar
NSW, 469 posts
5 Nov 2021 9:51AM
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Just ordered a custom longboard " BONZER " from Smik. 9'9" by 31.5" at 4.0" which gives 143 litres. Read blurb on Smik webpage - Should suit you perfectly - Send him the dimensions you need and discuss feasability - he is very approachable, good advice. Will post mockup when colour design is posted to me.

Slab
933 posts
6 Nov 2021 3:53AM
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I've been using a Starby Element 9,8 x 30 146 lites for the last couple of years.it does everything. I don't do big big waves but I'm in no doubt it can do big surf no problem. Stable enough, paddles good, gets into waves early and turn as sharp as you want. It has lots of nose rocker and a nice pin tail.not too sharp but sharp enough.

When it first came out years ago it was marketed as a big wave board.plenty vids to back that up. They then took a bit more volume off it to make it more responsive. It's really funny as Starby mainly market it now as a do all board for light riders and women I think.but it's a full out surf machine. I'm 90 kg..bit more with my 6mm wettie on. Concave in the nose, double concave in the middle to vee in the tail.
What about a big Naish Hokua?



stehar
NSW, 469 posts
8 Nov 2021 5:27PM
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Have you made a choice - in time for Xmas?

Brenno
QLD, 811 posts
9 Nov 2021 1:24PM
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stehar said..
Just ordered a custom longboard " BONZER " from Smik. 9'9" by 31.5" at 4.0" which gives 143 litres. Read blurb on Smik webpage - Should suit you perfectly - Send him the dimensions you need and discuss feasability - he is very approachable, good advice. Will post mockup when colour design is posted to me.


I'm with you stehar, and eagerly await the creation of my 10 foot "Lord Bonza the Long".........

cantSUPenough
VIC, 2040 posts
9 Nov 2021 4:56PM
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Lizardman said..

cantSUPenough said..
Where I normally surf (Big Left, Flinders) it often gets above head height and quite powerful, and when it does it gets very "lumpy" - lots of water moving around, surges from the reef below, etc. It is 1 km off-shore and it does not take much wind to get some chop going. The last thing you need when the bigger waves come is to bobble, or worse, fall off...

The waves are often quite big and full, so you need board speed in order to catch them - or you have to survive late drops...

I ride my 8'7 Placid up to that size of wave. As it gets bigger I find I either miss the wave or have to catch it late. I might survive the drop, but you have to pick the perfect position to avoid a close-out. Plus it gets tiring dealing with the lumpy conditions.

Normally I turn to my 9'4 Acid (31.5 wide, 136L), but I am looking for something a bit different. The Acid does not seem to be a lot more stable than the Placid. Plus, at speed, I find it hard to turn. That may be the fins, and it may be my lack of skill.

I bought a 9'11 Insane, but it is 29" wide and just too tippy.

I used to ride my bigger Speed out there but sometimes the nose would catch on the late drops, and I never like having to jump on the tail to turn it.

I think I need something that is long enough to catch the wave, wide enough (in the right places) so it is stable, thin enough (especially in the rails) so it is not corky and so that it will still bite into the face of the wave.

When it gets bigger I am not as fussed about maneuverability, but it needs to be able to go top to bottom and cut back so I can get back towards the pocket.

I have lots of Sunovas and the only board I can see that stays slim as it gets bigger is the Flash. So many of the new generation get real fat (high volume) when they get longer.

I am 6'3/192, 59 (staring down 60!), and usually around 100 kg in the winter...

Sorry for the essay. Any suggestions?



Crunchy Point is my closest local surf break and as i surf alone most of the time I feel its safer for me. Also since the lockdowns we have had I have barely been out sup Surfing and would almost be back to beginner status so better I surf there and Point Roadknight for a while. Only downside is that they are so busy. I have a new 8'7 Placid and a near new 10' Starboard Longboard both purchased about 5 months ago and I havent put them in the water yet, hopefully after Cup weekend I will be able to try them out. I would like to try some other surf spots down Flinders way so maybe in the near future we could meet up down there. Cheers and stay safe.


Hi Lizardman - sorry, been off the forum for a while. Absolutely - if you see a guy on an orange Placid with black rails, paddle over and say gooday! I was fortunate enough to keep surfing through the pandemic, although for most of the time inside Westernport until we were allowed to drive far enough for me to get to Flinders.

cantSUPenough
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9 Nov 2021 5:04PM
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stehar said..
Have you made a choice - in time for Xmas?


Well, at the moment I am in discussion with Dylan from Sunova about a custom Insane - but at this rate (with shipping delays, etc.) it will be for next Christmas. I think it will be a great board. In truth, there are probably a number of standard boards available that would perfectly meet my needs but...

cantSUPenough
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9 Nov 2021 5:06PM
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Slab said..
I've been using a Starby Element 9,8 x 30 146 lites for the last couple of years.it does everything. I don't do big big waves but I'm in no doubt it can do big surf no problem. Stable enough, paddles good, gets into waves early and turn as sharp as you want. It has lots of nose rocker and a nice pin tail.not too sharp but sharp enough.

When it first came out years ago it was marketed as a big wave board.plenty vids to back that up. They then took a bit more volume off it to make it more responsive. It's really funny as Starby mainly market it now as a do all board for light riders and women I think.but it's a full out surf machine. I'm 90 kg..bit more with my 6mm wettie on. Concave in the nose, double concave in the middle to vee in the tail.
What about a big Naish Hokua?




I wonder if the "Element" has been rebranded to "Wedge"? I looked very closely at the 10'2 Wedge - it has a nice shape and there was a carbon one available... Now I am wondering why I didn't buy that instead...

Lizardman
VIC, 47 posts
10 Nov 2021 7:51AM
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cantSUPenough said..

Lizardman said..


cantSUPenough said..
Where I normally surf (Big Left, Flinders) it often gets above head height and quite powerful, and when it does it gets very "lumpy" - lots of water moving around, surges from the reef below, etc. It is 1 km off-shore and it does not take much wind to get some chop going. The last thing you need when the bigger waves come is to bobble, or worse, fall off...

The waves are often quite big and full, so you need board speed in order to catch them - or you have to survive late drops...

I ride my 8'7 Placid up to that size of wave. As it gets bigger I find I either miss the wave or have to catch it late. I might survive the drop, but you have to pick the perfect position to avoid a close-out. Plus it gets tiring dealing with the lumpy conditions.

Normally I turn to my 9'4 Acid (31.5 wide, 136L), but I am looking for something a bit different. The Acid does not seem to be a lot more stable than the Placid. Plus, at speed, I find it hard to turn. That may be the fins, and it may be my lack of skill.

I bought a 9'11 Insane, but it is 29" wide and just too tippy.

I used to ride my bigger Speed out there but sometimes the nose would catch on the late drops, and I never like having to jump on the tail to turn it.

I think I need something that is long enough to catch the wave, wide enough (in the right places) so it is stable, thin enough (especially in the rails) so it is not corky and so that it will still bite into the face of the wave.

When it gets bigger I am not as fussed about maneuverability, but it needs to be able to go top to bottom and cut back so I can get back towards the pocket.

I have lots of Sunovas and the only board I can see that stays slim as it gets bigger is the Flash. So many of the new generation get real fat (high volume) when they get longer.

I am 6'3/192, 59 (staring down 60!), and usually around 100 kg in the winter...

Sorry for the essay. Any suggestions?




Crunchy Point is my closest local surf break and as i surf alone most of the time I feel its safer for me. Also since the lockdowns we have had I have barely been out sup Surfing and would almost be back to beginner status so better I surf there and Point Roadknight for a while. Only downside is that they are so busy. I have a new 8'7 Placid and a near new 10' Starboard Longboard both purchased about 5 months ago and I havent put them in the water yet, hopefully after Cup weekend I will be able to try them out. I would like to try some other surf spots down Flinders way so maybe in the near future we could meet up down there. Cheers and stay safe.



Hi Lizardman - sorry, been off the forum for a while. Absolutely - if you see a guy on an orange Placid with black rails, paddle over and say gooday! I was fortunate enough to keep surfing through the pandemic, although for most of the time inside Westernport until we were allowed to drive far enough for me to get to Flinders.

Cheers mate will do. I havent had a surf at Flinders, do you get to Big Left via the Golf Club and then have to walk a bit to the water? I will go down for a look see in the coming weeks. I need to get out inside Westernport or over to Pt Roadknight to get some practice in.

MangoDingo
NT, 751 posts
10 Nov 2021 10:14AM
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Can'tSupEnough said.
... Now I am wondering why I didn't buy that instead...


CSE.


stehar
NSW, 469 posts
11 Nov 2021 7:11AM
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Brenno said..

stehar said..
Just ordered a custom longboard " BONZER " from Smik. 9'9" by 31.5" at 4.0" which gives 143 litres. Read blurb on Smik webpage - Should suit you perfectly - Send him the dimensions you need and discuss feasability - he is very approachable, good advice. Will post mockup when colour design is posted to me.



I'm with you stehar, and eagerly await the creation of my 10 foot "Lord Bonza the Long".........


Mockup done - perfect! Might even say " Smik "


Brenno
QLD, 811 posts
12 Nov 2021 2:06PM
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stehar said..

Brenno said..


stehar said..
Just ordered a custom longboard " BONZER " from Smik. 9'9" by 31.5" at 4.0" which gives 143 litres. Read blurb on Smik webpage - Should suit you perfectly - Send him the dimensions you need and discuss feasability - he is very approachable, good advice. Will post mockup when colour design is posted to me.




I'm with you stehar, and eagerly await the creation of my 10 foot "Lord Bonza the Long".........



Mockup done - perfect! Might even say " Smik "



Nice mate, is that a full deck pad?

stehar
NSW, 469 posts
12 Nov 2021 5:07PM
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Yes it is - custom board, - Carol ( my wife ) has a " Jimmy Lewis Striker " and the full deckpad works well and I wanted it on my new board. Also wanted the " Bonzer " speed down the line coupled with the stability of this shape and I believe it will be a killer mix with my otherBonzer! Steve

cantSUPenough
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13 Nov 2021 9:17AM
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MangoDingo said..

Can'tSupEnough said.
... Now I am wondering why I didn't buy that instead...



CSE.




Sing along: "Always look on the bright ....."




MangoDingo
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13 Nov 2021 9:29AM
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cantSUPenough said.
Sing along: "Always look on the bright ....."




Bwahaaa!!!Oh man - How is it that any Monty Python reference is still laugh out loud funny 40 years on!
Gold CSE! Well played sir.

cantSUPenough
VIC, 2040 posts
14 Nov 2021 7:50AM
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MangoDingo said..

cantSUPenough said.
Sing along: "Always look on the bright ....."




Bwahaaa!!!Oh man - How is it that any Monty Python reference is still laugh out loud funny 40 years on!
Gold CSE! Well played sir.


Ever since posting that I have been humming that tune in my head... That movie is still a classic though!

cantSUPenough
VIC, 2040 posts
14 Nov 2021 10:23AM
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So, even though there are probably perfectly good boards out there off-the-shalf that would be available more quickly, I have continued the design process and this is where it stands. It is 9'9, 136L and 31.3 wide. It will be my "You probably shouldn't go out" board. Goal #1 is to catch the wave. #2 is to survive the drop. #3 is to race along the face to beat the close out. #4 is to have fun with turns when the wave's anger has subsided. It may also get a run in smaller head-high conditions when I can't be bothered balancing on my Placid.

The design started with the Insane (which is Sunova's big wave board) - we just made it wider and then found a length where we thought it would work at that width. It should be stable enough for the lumpy conditions out at big left so I can focus on the wave and not on staying upright.

I am not sure about colors yet. I was thinking the bottom could be bright orange with a big black cross so that the rescue helicopter can find my body





finsup
WA, 133 posts
14 Nov 2021 7:39AM
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Bloody magnificent.

Here's some ideas

Tardy
4181 posts
14 Nov 2021 7:57AM
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LOOKS GREAT ..Here some more long big wave boards ..I like the one on the left chocolate dipped in custard .


finsup
WA, 133 posts
14 Nov 2021 8:30AM
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haha
OR...
given the main goals of the board,
how about something a bit Pipeline-esque..





MangoDingo
NT, 751 posts
14 Nov 2021 11:36AM
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Awesome CSE. You've landed on a ripper!
Yep. That thing's gonna love it out there eh!

MangoDingo
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14 Nov 2021 11:42AM
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Wow! What a great shot Finzoid. I can remember sitting in that very shop as a 10 year old listening to all the old crew swapping yarns, staring at the boards on the racks, and getting slightly off my face on the smell of foam and fibreglass. Ah, the good ol' daze.

stehar
NSW, 469 posts
14 Nov 2021 6:21PM
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Yep 9'9" 31.3 and 136 lt Sunova for you 9'9" 31.5 and 143 lt Smik for me slightly different every other way rocker/fins/overall shape and also I need a Sup that will go in small waves and that will perform in the occasional larger surf. Good luck with your custom Sup. Steve

cantSUPenough
VIC, 2040 posts
15 Nov 2021 6:37AM
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Wow - they are some classic shapes and designs!

That banana/chocolate one on the left is a ripper. I had a 9'6 Balin yellow mal (Bonga Perkins inspired shape) - it was a beauty. It could pick up the smallest ripple. It would be fun to go retro like the red board with checkerboard design down the stringer in the top right of the Balin shop.

And Steve, we are on the same wavelength for sure, but as you say differences in other places.

I am not sure Sunova can produce a white board, but maybe the bottom should be black and white stripes to deter the sharkies out there.




Zeusman
QLD, 1342 posts
15 Nov 2021 6:31AM
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My big wave board is a 11'11" custom gun from Surefire. Glasses in innegra, it's only 9.5kg. absolute weapon!








stehar
NSW, 469 posts
15 Nov 2021 8:09AM
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Looking good!

cantSUPenough
VIC, 2040 posts
16 Nov 2021 11:11AM
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That's a fine-looking board.



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