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Created by Bighugg > 9 months ago, 30 Oct 2017
colas
3134 posts
13 Sep 2018 2:26PM
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SoCalGremmy said..
How can we help him (and ourselves) out?




Speaking of the fin qualities will help.
Pre-ordering them could help, if Troy is OK.
Troy making Futures and FCSII version will help. But it cost money.
I guess talking more shapers/brands trying them so that they could propose them with new boards could help. I praised them with the Gong shaper, but he didn't like the way they behaved in turns, less smooth than the fins he is used to.

The issue is with fins with a high quality construction such as these is that once you have a quiver of them, you do not need to buy any more of them, making it hard to sustain a business unless you resort to marketing tricks: "new line for 2019! new signature fins! new colors! new shape for 2019 (with only a mm change)"...

Also not having any stock doesn't help people discovering them, and the huge marketing might of FCS do not help.

Troy told me I was the one who bought him the more fins in 2010+2011... but I haven't bought a C-Drive fin him ever since, I have a sufficient C-Drive quiver to cover all needs. I guess I will only buy C-Drives again if he make a FCS II line, or if he finds a way to make them faster (I dream of a C-Drive outline with a Quobba foil and material, in FCSII of course), and perhaps have more flex.

Bighugg
NT, 174 posts
13 Sep 2018 7:15PM
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Colas, you may not have purchased any more C Drives BUT you have shared the passion n tech knowledge so openly that others bought new or sourced 2nd hand fins keeping the interest in C Drives alive.
Thank you

LastSupper
VIC, 133 posts
13 Sep 2018 9:55PM
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colas said..

SoCalGremmy said..
How can we help him (and ourselves) out?





Speaking of the fin qualities will help.
Pre-ordering them could help, if Troy is OK.
Troy making Futures and FCSII version will help. But it cost money.
I guess talking more shapers/brands trying them so that they could propose them with new boards could help. I praised them with the Gong shaper, but he didn't like the way they behaved in turns, less smooth than the fins he is used to.

The issue is with fins with a high quality construction such as these is that once you have a quiver of them, you do not need to buy any more of them, making it hard to sustain a business unless you resort to marketing tricks: "new line for 2019! new signature fins! new colors! new shape for 2019 (with only a mm change)"...

Also not having any stock doesn't help people discovering them, and the huge marketing might of FCS do not help.

Troy told me I was the one who bought him the more fins in 2010+2011... but I haven't bought a C-Drive fin him ever since, I have a sufficient C-Drive quiver to cover all needs. I guess I will only buy C-Drives again if he make a FCS II line, or if he finds a way to make them faster (I dream of a C-Drive outline with a Quobba foil and material, in FCSII of course), and perhaps have more flex.


Now u talkin sence

FRP
255 posts
14 Sep 2018 2:25AM
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I am a total non-tech guy but.....if Troy sold the digital 3D image of the fin could we print them? Would the plastic for a printer be high enough quality?

Bob

cantSUPenough
VIC, 1759 posts
14 Sep 2018 12:15PM
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Maybe he should put them on kickstarter - get some funding and exposure.

bomberdave
VIC, 162 posts
14 Sep 2018 12:33PM
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make enough 'noise' and one of the big guys might take notice and buy his IP at least that way everyone benefits a little.

roachy
QLD, 380 posts
14 Sep 2018 5:52PM
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Big twins work well with a large c drive too on my gun

Bighugg
NT, 174 posts
24 Nov 2018 11:38PM
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C Drive, ing..... Bali soon .


FRP
255 posts
25 Nov 2018 5:32AM
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Bighugg said..
C Drive, ing..... Bali soon .



Fin Porn! ........Very jealous.

Bob

Bighugg
NT, 174 posts
26 Nov 2018 10:26PM
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Troy is looking forward to doing another run early in the new year.
Will keep you updated ...... ENJOY

DHUPEDNORTH1
49 posts
5 Dec 2018 3:12PM
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bomberdave said..
make enough 'noise' and one of the big guys might take notice and buy his IP at least that way everyone benefits a little.


there's only about 4 years left for US and Aus for his patents from what I can see. He'd want to be quick about it.

benk
QLD, 385 posts
7 Dec 2018 9:06AM
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I have just dealt with Troy to get some futures C-drives for my SUPs. I'd looked at it awhile ago but this thread motivated me to get back onto it. I have some on the way from Troy that he has pieced together for me and I can't wait to try them when they arrive. What a legend to deal with too! His service is amazing. Hopefully we can generate enough interest here to keep them rolling out in future. It's great to support local innovation.

Lucyloo
VIC, 135 posts
7 Dec 2018 1:31PM
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Ive just lost another side c drive now thats 2 incomplete sets.so i will be restocking as soon as available.These fins in the 8.8 and 8.10 speeds are superb.

LastSupper
VIC, 133 posts
7 Dec 2018 1:40PM
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I need 2 sets of med and 1 set of small also for my speeds and more

bomberdave
VIC, 162 posts
7 Dec 2018 2:24PM
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LucyLoo ..what size fins do you use on the speeds...looking to try some cdrives on a 9'1 creek ????? Help Anyone???

Emeboy
NSW, 235 posts
7 Dec 2018 3:42PM
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+1 on looking at a set for a 9'1 Creek.... does the general rule of big surfer-big fins still hold true? I am finding the stock fins on the creek a bit stiff...

Bighugg
NT, 174 posts
8 Dec 2018 12:27PM
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Over the last week have been riding a 10'1 x 32 surf shape in smaller reef breaks,Cd large thruster set for quick sets , Cd large sides with Cd grom trailer in slower fatter sets to put go n fun . C-drives have made basic small waves fun. I'm a 6'2 over 100kg grom

Bighugg
NT, 174 posts
25 Dec 2018 6:41AM
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Bomberdave, how is you Creek going with your new C Drives ?

bomberdave
VIC, 162 posts
25 Dec 2018 8:41AM
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Bighugg, made a big difference. Was running FCS 7's in side and 5 in rear, tried the Quobba fins but felt they were too small and didnt really like them. The C drives gave much better drive and speed. Felt i could turn the board really easily from the middle..basically loved them!!!! Want to try a little nubster in the rear to really loosen it up. Personally I would recommend them for the creek. Keen to try them on the 8'5 degenerate and see if I get similar result.

MangoDingo
NT, 233 posts
26 Dec 2018 4:42PM
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Bomberdave, BigHugg - I've picked up a 9'2 Flow - keen to give the C Drives a run on it.
Bomberdave - What size did you end up with on your Creek and where do you order from?
Are they still being made???

bomberdave
VIC, 162 posts
27 Dec 2018 10:15AM
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Mango..will PM you details....lesson learnt today...it was small and gutless surf and board felt stiff. CDrives need a bit of juice for the magic to work. Think the quobba fins may be a better choice in the small stuff.

MangoDingo
NT, 233 posts
27 Dec 2018 12:13PM
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BomberDave - no worries - cheers for the heads-up.
That definitely throws another option into the mix.
Had the Flow out this morning in super-glassy, waist high rights and I'm completely frothing. Keen to get as much drive out of it as possible - while staying loose.
Cheers

colas
3134 posts
27 Dec 2018 4:02PM
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bomberdave said..
CDrives need a bit of juice for the magic to work. Think the quobba fins may be a better choice in the small stuff.


In my experience the C-Drive provides ton of grip, even at very low speed, but they still manage to be easy to handle in the juice and at high speed. For instance I had keels in a mini-Simmons 6'10" SUP, and they were great in small waves, but as soon as the wave hollowed, I didn't have enough strength to control the board. By switching to C-Drive twins, I had nearly as hold as keels on small waves, but the board was much more nimble in hollow waves.

C-Drive are especially great for people going down in SUP board sizes, as their extra grip at low speed will help mastering the row, especially on takeoff.

Quobba are different, for them to shine you need to go fast. They can work in small or big waves, as long as you go fast. Otherwise they are not very different from standard fins. So unlike C-Drive, you may have to change your surfing style to benefit from them.

MangoDingo
NT, 233 posts
27 Dec 2018 6:44PM
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Awesome Colas - cheers. That's a whole lotta good advice - I've picked up the 9'2 Flow - I love to go fast and get turns in.
Ive read so much good stuff about the C-drives and pretty much everyone is saying the same thing - that is, they work best in juice, otherwise can be a bit 'stiff'.
Where I am, we don't get much in the way of power (which is why I had a 10' Style to start with) but every now and then we do get some swell pushing through with monsoonal low pressure systems and I wanna be able to get amongst it when the time comes.

Thanks for your post man

Bighugg
NT, 174 posts
28 Dec 2018 1:21PM
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Hi MD, if you know what sizes you want to try , happy to loan you some for a month, have neighbor going Darwin tomorrow

cantSUPenough
VIC, 1759 posts
28 Dec 2018 3:36PM
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To support what has been said, I found that the c-drives made it very hard to turn when going above approx 25 km/hr (according to my Rip Curl GPS watch) - maybe above 23 k/hr. On the bigger waves I would struggle to execute bottom turns. Now I use smaller fins and it is much easier to turn. But you sure notice the extra drive (with the c-drives) on the mid-size waves, and when you want to just go fast down the line.

I need to try some quobba fins...

bomberdave
VIC, 162 posts
28 Dec 2018 4:21PM
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CSE I have a set if you are down inverloch way..interesting comment about the speed. I sort of agree anyway PM me if you want to try some. Might take them to sandy point in the morning as we had an epic session there today

MangoDingo
NT, 233 posts
28 Dec 2018 3:10PM
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Bighugg said..
Hi MD, if you know what sizes you want to try , happy to loan you some for a month, have neighbor going Darwin tomorrow


Thanks heaps BigH
Have just PM'd you.
Cheers mate

cantSUPenough
VIC, 1759 posts
28 Dec 2018 6:12PM
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bomberdave said..
CSE I have a set if you are down inverloch way..interesting comment about the speed. I sort of agree anyway PM me if you want to try some. Might take them to sandy point in the morning as we had an epic session there today


I may be down in Yanakie tomorrow but I am not sure what time. I'll be staying there a while. You had a great session at Sandy Point? I have never surfed there. From Yanakie I tend to head into the prom.

Bighugg
NT, 174 posts
28 Dec 2018 9:26PM
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MangoDingo,
NT newyears care pac coming your way




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