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Mushy soft wave board - suggestions?

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Created by IanInca 2 months ago, 29 May 2019
IanInca
23 posts
29 May 2019 4:31AM
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Hello, having recently bought a performance long sup 9' 29" 115L which I love, I have found it doesn't like mushy, windy, choppy weak waves. I also would like to have a contrast skatey style board against the smooth longboard style. My other board is 7'8 30" 115L Hypernut is very stable in the wind and chop but I just don't love it. I may get a 7'6 or 7'11 Gong Mob but would like to see what other people are riding in crudy conditions. I'm 70kgs and an intermediate rider..
Thanks .

robbo1111
NSW, 500 posts
29 May 2019 7:17AM
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Minion.
I'm the same weight as you, have had mine for 5 years, it's a bit beaten up now but still goes great. Mine is 7'0 and 95 litres.
Surprised you don't like the Hypernut, maybe you need to go smaller

JEG
VIC, 1219 posts
29 May 2019 8:02AM
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try the JL SuperFrank lean 7'6 x 29.5"x 4"liters 100L?

mickeyb
NSW, 41 posts
29 May 2019 8:52AM
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I agree with the Super Frank. I love mine.

808-Obsession
QLD, 360 posts
29 May 2019 9:49AM
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Sunova 'Shroom is an option too. Specifically built for those kind of conditions (the name allegedly came from 'Mush-Shroom' as in designed to perform in mushy waves)

colas
3328 posts
29 May 2019 3:00PM
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robbo1111 said..
Surprised you don't like the Hypernut, maybe you need to go smaller


Yes, that's mandatory for these wide-nosed "Tomo" shapes. You need to ride them VERY short to get the intended effect of having the nose chopped off a standard board. Otherwise you just end up with a big fat heavy cumbersone nose.

So the Gong Mob 7'6" not the 7'11". But short boards paddle very slowly, you must know how to position properly for takeoff, you cannot cheat by taking off by pure paddling speed. A compromise is something like the Gong Karmen, with a semi-pointed nose with a fast rocker and full rails that give stability but enough paddling speed in chop (length + chop-piercing nose) as opposed to something like the Hypernut that would plow in it. Of course these "hybrid" shapes exist in most brands, like the JL Super Frank, or even the Destroyer.

808-Obsession
QLD, 360 posts
29 May 2019 5:32PM
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808-Obsession said..
Sunova 'Shroom is an option too. Specifically built for those kind of conditions (the name allegedly came from 'Mush-Shroom' as in designed to perform in mushy waves)


sunovasurfboards.com/en/sup/sup-surfing/shroom



SunnyBouy
353 posts
29 May 2019 8:17PM
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Shroom
or
Minion (if you can find one in the UK)

cbigsup
362 posts
30 May 2019 5:51AM
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SMIK Short Mac Freo!

A weapon in junk!






supsean
30 posts
31 May 2019 10:19PM
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My 8'10" Sunova Steeze seems to be doing the trick in NYC. Catching tons of mush.

Tardy
3065 posts
2 Jun 2019 6:21AM
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you need a board that keeps it speed ...i use a 10,6 nalu .

supsean
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3 Jun 2019 11:53PM
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supsean said..
My 8'10" Sunova Steeze seems to be doing the trick in NYC. Catching tons of mush.


I was just out at high tide 1-2 foot waves with a crew of experienced long prone-boarders, and my intermediate butt was catching just as many waves.

Linkus
28 posts
6 Jun 2019 5:46PM
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My son has now the same Hypernut 7'8 30" 115L carbon, before this board I bought to him the Gong Mob 7.6 x120L. I have a Shroom 8.7 and an 8.3 is coming at the end of June. I deeply love the Shroom and for me is the best board ever. The top for not extreme conditions. And that's all. About the others boards, on the MOB my 14's son last year started to be a very good wave rider. It's a very nice board in the small and messy mediterranean conditions. The MOB starts a better than HN on small waves but i dont like very much the doomed deck that gives useless volume and weight. (This is tipical for the Shroom addict...) The Hypernut despite 5 LT less is more stable and more easy to use cause the flat deck. Probably the HN is more suitable for bigger and faster waves but you need more paddling efforts to start. Both of them for me are too small, I'm more than 90 kg and quite old so i use them only for training in flat water or in very small waves. Probably the Gong's new models have a very good quality construction and a quality/price ratio umbeatable.

siny
ACT, 268 posts
6 Jun 2019 8:17PM
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foil

colas
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7 Jun 2019 1:03PM
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Linkus said..
The MOB starts a better than HN on small waves but i dont like very much the doomed deck that gives useless volume and weight. (This is tipical for the Shroom addict...) The Hypernut despite 5 LT less is more stable and more easy to use cause the flat deck.




What you experienced is that the Mob has its volume more centered, in both directions. Thus its rails, nose, tail are thinner, and it is thus nimbler but also less stable (there is no free lunch) than boards with fuller rails like the HN (or the Karmen in the Gong line).

On the "useless volume and weight", I guess this is a glass half full or half empty perception. The idea of centering volume is to reduce the rails, nose, tail volumes (to ease banking the board) while keeping the width for some stability. If you feel that you took a flat decked board and added volume in the center, it means that you feel like the volume was added to, not removed from, a standard shape , meaning your board is oversized. As I often say, these kind of "Tomo" shapes, in any brand, must not be oversized (and thus ridden quite short), otherwise you lose all their benefits. If you feel you need more volume, you should stay with traditional shapes.

This domed / flat and tomo / standard differences apply to all brands, not only Gong of course.

Linkus
28 posts
9 Jun 2019 4:00PM
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Hi Colas, "there is no free lunch" you are so right! I see the new MOB probably the deck is more flatter than the first generation that my son had? By the way yesterday I tried a Gong Zero Pro 115 in flat water: it's really a fast blade comparing with my son's HN!

IanInca
23 posts
9 Jun 2019 4:19PM
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Linkus said..
Hi Colas, "there is no free lunch" you are so right! I see the new MOB probably the deck is more flatter than the first generation that my son had? By the way yesterday I tried a Gong Zero Pro 115 in flat water: it's really a fast blade comparing with my son's HN!


I have the Zero pro 115L and love it!!



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