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Created by PJRatpatrol 6 months ago, 3 Feb 2019
PJRatpatrol
24 posts
3 Feb 2019 9:21AM
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Hi All

I have been lurking around here a bit and decided to come in from the cold or heat as I'm in Melbourne
I have been SUPing for about 6 months and love it I have a long windsurfing background so was not an issue getting started. Started off with a Sunova one which I love in the surf and when it's calm. However it has its limitations in the chop and doing distance, so looking at a 14 footer
After much research, indecision, procrastination, YouTube, English reviewers (which are quite good I must say) and marketing hype I have narrowed it down to either a SIC RS 14 28" or a Starboard All Star 14" 26". Although as indecisive as I am I could be convinced with a Naish Maliko
For some reason the big dugouts don't do much for me. They remind me of the opening sequence of Hawaii Five O from the 70's so I have flashbacks of "Book em Dano"
80% of the use will be in Port Phillip bay in Melbourne Oz which as the locals know varies quite a bit
I am mid 50's 110kgs (with not much chance of going below that again) so hence the high volume boards.

Any thought or ideas would be welcome

DavidJohn
VIC, 16146 posts
3 Feb 2019 11:27AM
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The 14'x 29" Naish Glide is what I'd recomend.

You are welcome to paddle my 14x 28" Maliko and see how you go at 110kgs.

DaveSandan
VIC, 820 posts
3 Feb 2019 1:16PM
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I had a Naish Glide 14x29 and it would be a great board for you, go the GTW model though as the GS I think they are was quite heavy in comparison and the new models are not Yellow anymore,it's a shame I liked the colour scheme here?
They are a fast board when it's flat despite the extra weight and carve through chop when you get caught in a head wind or side chop, I am 80kg and I think it was a bit much for me but you should have no trouble, it's very stable.

PJRatpatrol
24 posts
3 Feb 2019 11:56AM
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Thanks guys, seems my academic researcher skills are not as good as thought as I never considered a Glide

DJ- I saw your video from May 16, it was awesome . ....You are Nuts!

The board seemed to blitz the conditions and i was surprised at far you could get to the back of the board.

Hopping down the investigation path, also trying to earn brownie points to offset the arrival of I would consider 14ft of heaven against what the boss would call another useless aquatic toy to go with the other pile of useless aquatic toys.

Cheers

Peter

DaveSandan
VIC, 820 posts
3 Feb 2019 2:22PM
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No browny points needed, I mentioned selling one and buying another in a passing conversation and a week later I said look what I got?????? then I had to buy a Vessel for her??Last week she bought a bag worth as much as a SUP without telling me as most wives do at some stage so all square for me to splash on some accessories of my own.

paul.j
QLD, 2853 posts
3 Feb 2019 3:22PM
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I know it's not on your list but for us this board is one of the best alround 14ft boards we have ever made!!

From what is sounds like you want this could be perfect.

We had a small race in Brisbane today where a lot of the local crew tried it out and it was a real winner.

You can check out the Aussie site www.oneoceansportsaustralia.com and click on the EVO 2.0 to find out more and the pricing is crazy good for the quality these are. Hardest thing is having to wait until late March for them to arrive.

PJRatpatrol
24 posts
4 Feb 2019 3:59PM
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Thanks Paul, looks like my list is getting bigger.

The thing is I think i am indecisive so at this stage I might just crawl up into a ball in the corner until I think of something else

cheers

Area10
1422 posts
4 Feb 2019 4:12PM
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paul.j said..
I know it's not on your list but for us this board is one of the best alround 14ft boards we have ever made!!

From what is sounds like you want this could be perfect.

We had a small race in Brisbane today where a lot of the local crew tried it out and it was a real winner.

You can check out the Aussie site www.oneoceansportsaustralia.com and click on the EVO 2.0 to find out more and the pricing is crazy good for the quality these are. Hardest thing is having to wait until late March for them to arrive.



I hope more care goes into the making of your boards than went into the proof-reading of your website. It gives an impression of sloppiness when a company's website is written so poorly. If writing advertising material isn't, understandably, your strong suit, why not pay a copy-editor to go over it and tidy up the language a bit?

Markmyword
QLD, 54 posts
4 Feb 2019 7:35PM
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Area10 said..

paul.j said..
I know it's not on your list but for us this board is one of the best alround 14ft boards we have ever made!!

From what is sounds like you want this could be perfect.

We had a small race in Brisbane today where a lot of the local crew tried it out and it was a real winner.

You can check out the Aussie site www.oneoceansportsaustralia.com and click on the EVO 2.0 to find out more and the pricing is crazy good for the quality these are. Hardest thing is having to wait until late March for them to arrive.




I hope more care goes into the making of your boards than went into the proof-reading of your website. It gives an impression of sloppiness when a company's website is written so poorly. If writing advertising material isn't, understandably, your strong suit, why not pay a copy-editor to go over it and tidy up the language a bit?


I usually find that whenever someone attacks either the Grammar or proof-reading or something means that their product must be pretty good. Wording with flaws in it means it's written by actual people, not robots. I will add that i don't own a One board, but maybe i should.

paul.j
QLD, 2853 posts
4 Feb 2019 8:39PM
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paul.j said..
I know it's not on your list but for us this board is one of the best alround 14ft boards we have ever made!!

From what is sounds like you want this could be perfect.

We had a small race in Brisbane today where a lot of the local crew tried it out and it was a real winner.

You can check out the Aussie site www.oneoceansportsaustralia.com and click on the EVO 2.0 to find out more and the pricing is crazy good for the quality these are. Hardest thing is having to wait until late March for them to arrive.






I hope more care goes into the making of your boards than went into the proof-reading of your website. It gives an impression of sloppiness when a company's website is written so poorly. If writing advertising material isn't, understandably, your strong suit, why not pay a copy-editor to go over it and tidy up the language a bit?




Haha thanks for reading the hole site and giving some nice feed back.

As a very small company we do take on a lot of these roles ourselves and we do try our very best but have always said we might not be perfect and I guess in your eyes far from it. We feel that the most important thing is to have a site and to be honest I'm super proud of Ang who has done the whole site by her self and is constantly touching it up as we go. Everytime we spend money on something like a proofreader that's just more you have to pay for a board and I would much rather not go down that path, we like the low outgoings and put all the real effort into the boards.
We dont have the budgets of the big companies or have some mega rich backers like others we do 100% our selves and we do the best we can for two very average people. Unfortunately I am very little help on this side as well as I surfed way to much at school and spent no where near enough time in a class room but I the up side I can paddle pretty quick and know how to make a board that works so sorry if we let you down and take your great positive feed back on board.

Maybe it's because ang wrote it in Aussie and not standard English?

Cheers Jacko

paul.j
QLD, 2853 posts
4 Feb 2019 9:04PM
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PJRatpatrol said..
Thanks Paul, looks like my list is getting bigger.

The thing is I think i am indecisive so at this stage I might just crawl up into a ball in the corner until I think of something else

cheers


Haha dont do that, all the boards listed will do the job and all of them are better than sitting in a corner just watching the world go by.
Just remember having to much choice is better than no choice at all!

If you ever come through the goldy feel free to call in and try a bunch of boards out or you could always hit up our mate in Melbourne Dave white as he has pretty much every ONE board ever made and might be able to give a good I sight for what will work well down your way.

Jacko

magillamelb
VIC, 624 posts
5 Feb 2019 9:43AM
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PJRatpatrol said..
Hi All

I have been lurking around here a bit and decided to come in from the cold or heat as I'm in Melbourne
I have been SUPing for about 6 months and love it I have a long windsurfing background so was not an issue getting started. Started off with a Sunova one which I love in the surf and when it's calm. However it has its limitations in the chop and doing distance, so looking at a 14 footer
After much research, indecision, procrastination, YouTube, English reviewers (which are quite good I must say) and marketing hype I have narrowed it down to either a SIC RS 14 28" or a Starboard All Star 14" 26". Although as indecisive as I am I could be convinced with a Naish Maliko
For some reason the big dugouts don't do much for me. They remind me of the opening sequence of Hawaii Five O from the 70's so I have flashbacks of "Book em Dano"
80% of the use will be in Port Phillip bay in Melbourne Oz which as the locals know varies quite a bit
I am mid 50's 110kgs (with not much chance of going below that again) so hence the high volume boards.

Any thought or ideas would be welcome



I have a ONE Storm 14' x 28" for sale. A perfect Port Philip Bay board for a bloke your size. Used less than 10 times. As new. With a cover.
You're welcome to take it for a spin...

cantSUPenough
VIC, 1795 posts
9 Feb 2019 11:40AM
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Another possibility as I did not see it on your list; the Sunova Search. I have the 14' version.

I also have a traditional 14' board, but it is very thick and thus tippy. Mine is 26" so I hope the recommended 28" and 29" widths would work better for you - so I highly recommend testing one first.

The Search is like a stretched out surf board. It isn't as fast as the ONE or Naish boards, but it is more stable (I think) and you can surf them if you want. (I am 97kg, 6'3 and 57 - living in Melbourne but mostly surfing Westernport.)

I don't sell them and you can't buy mine - but you can try it if you are down the peninsula any time.

PJRatpatrol
24 posts
9 Feb 2019 2:53PM
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Hi Guys thanks for the advice and responses, also thanks for the ride offers , I will PM when I can get away.

I have those evil things called children that seem to suck up your time not to mention finances. Although I got the boy on a board for a try , no problem then and he managed to do a step back turn on his first go without going in

I fell off a lot trying it.

I hate him , I may sell him for medical experiments, if anyone has any pharmaceutical company or mad scientists on their books let me know

Cheers

PJRatpatrol
24 posts
22 Feb 2019 2:17PM
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Well I did it, after much angst. procrastination and indecision I finally made the call and bought a Jimmy Lewis 23 inch 14ft Sidewinder which was too good a bargain to pass up.

I have probably overextended myself regarding the board (like putting a learner in a Ferrari) however I am generally known for not making wise decisions.


Awesome board. only 9 kg, well made and looks cool. Its was all done with Rob by texting ,so bought Saturday night, in Melbourne Tuesday picked up Wednesday. Good service. Although Rob did text me at 05:52 on Sunday morning to see how things were going, obviously on his way to a surf.

I had a urgent important meeting that suddenly came up on Thursday morning so I could not get into the office. Funnily enough it was very close to a flat water lake . I had my client in attendance


After we discussed the important business with Skip, I took the board out which strangely enough was on top of my car.




It seems the cat loaded it on the car without my knowledge

I was hoping it was a bit more stable than it looked it would be and hopes were dashed as it was very tippy when I hopped on.

However I did not fall off , I did the first run out to the end of the lake and was impressed with the speed and ease of paddle. The tracking was straight and i rarely had to change sides. It was very wobbly but that was most likely my technique , still did not fall off. Turning was a Oh S*&t experience but still got around. I complete the run back and was still dry.

I got cocky the next one and tried surf stance which ended up to be swimming stance. Managed to clamber back up and start again .

All in all I like it but I need a hell of a lot more time and work on it to be confident in some chop. So more flat stuff for me until I get to know it.

There is a you tube about secondary stability which is where it feels Ike its going to tip but probably wont. I think thats the thing I need to train the brain and bod on so I am more comfortable with it

Cheers





Nozza
VIC, 2106 posts
22 Feb 2019 4:24PM
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I am impressed.
Good luck and keep at it

DaveSandan
VIC, 820 posts
22 Feb 2019 5:19PM
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PJRatpatrol said..
Well I did it, after much angst. procrastination and indecision I finally made the call and bought a Jimmy Lewis 23 inch 14ft Sidewinder which was too good a bargain to pass up.

I have probably overextended myself regarding the board (like putting a learner in a Ferrari) however I am generally known for not making wise decisions.


Awesome board. only 9 kg, well made and looks cool. Its was all done with Rob by texting ,so bought Saturday night, in Melbourne Tuesday picked up Wednesday. Good service. Although Rob did text me at 05:52 on Sunday morning to see how things were going, obviously on his way to a surf.

I had a urgent important meeting that suddenly came up on Thursday morning so I could not get into the office. Funnily enough it was very close to a flat water lake . I had my client in attendance


After we discussed the important business with Skip, I took the board out which strangely enough was on top of my car.




It seems the cat loaded it on the car without my knowledge

I was hoping it was a bit more stable than it looked it would be and hopes were dashed as it was very tippy when I hopped on.

However I did not fall off , I did the first run out to the end of the lake and was impressed with the speed and ease of paddle. The tracking was straight and i rarely had to change sides. It was very wobbly but that was most likely my technique , still did not fall off. Turning was a Oh S*&t experience but still got around. I complete the run back and was still dry.

I got cocky the next one and tried surf stance which ended up to be swimming stance. Managed to clamber back up and start again .

All in all I like it but I need a hell of a lot more time and work on it to be confident in some chop. So more flat stuff for me until I get to know it.

There is a you tube about secondary stability which is where it feels Ike its going to tip but probably wont. I think thats the thing I need to train the brain and bod on so I am more comfortable with it

Cheers






Good choice I have one and it's great!!!

22 Feb 2019 6:21PM
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Hi PjRat,
I have only 2 x 2019 Sidewinders left at a good deal if you're interested & want to PM me...

PJRatpatrol
24 posts
23 Feb 2019 8:02AM
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Rob

I just bought this board off you, if I get another I will be killed

23 Feb 2019 12:16PM
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Haha I didn't realise it was your alter ego :)

rockmagnet
QLD, 1219 posts
23 Feb 2019 5:31PM
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Rob

I just bought this board off you, if I get another I will be killed


Always remember "Its easier to beg for forgiveness than is to ask for permission"

JEG
VIC, 1220 posts
23 Feb 2019 8:35PM
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Nice board PJRatpatrol, very impressive balance with that board width at your weight and keep at it.

Area10
1422 posts
24 Feb 2019 5:06AM
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I'm impressed that you are managing with that board at your weight. I had one, but found that maybe I was a bit too heavy for it: I couldn't get the speed out of it that lighter riders could. It's a really fast and stable board for a light rider. Or maybe it was just me!

But it will be fantastic training for sure, and it's such a beautifully made board - really light but at the same time durable.

24 Feb 2019 1:15PM
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Hi PjRatpatrol, I somehow missed your review that you did on your new Sidewinder when I replied before sorry but i loved it when i read it & had a chuckle...Enjoy

PJRatpatrol
24 posts
24 Feb 2019 1:11PM
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Thanks for all the supportive comments guys
Beautiful day down here in Melbourne so went back to the lake and brought the boys and the quiver

Started out OK (would be better if I could figure out how to turn the stupid image up the right way)


Then had a bit of this much to the amusement of all


i figured it out, the paddle shaft was slipping up and down. That's my story and I am sticking to it.

I got in some good runs and according to the GPS got some good speed. In the end it came down to fitness, when I was tired the balance evaporated and being knackered just made it harder.
Off the beers (well not all of them) and aerobic works for me.
End of the day we just mucked around and had some fun.

Funny how two fairly mature 16 year old's can revert to playing pirates and forget anything electronic




DaveSandan
VIC, 820 posts
24 Feb 2019 4:16PM
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Good action shot falling down, nice spot Lysterfield, what type of GPS do you use?

PJRatpatrol
24 posts
24 Feb 2019 2:45PM
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Hi Dave
Garmin Fenix 5 watch, love it. It was also a beg forgiveness purchase

Tardy
3065 posts
25 Feb 2019 12:23PM
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Well done PJ
your gonna love a 14''footer ..
when you think your are going to fall off ..or see chop ...take a little step back with one foot and bend your knees

i see your falling off photo straight knees .. All good mate it's only water .and it s a water sport so getting wet is
gonna happen ..I fall off my 14 all the time mainly because I tend to want to surf everything .
my 2015 naish javelin is still going strong ,not a good surfer ,but fantastic in flat water .

turning
walk up the back and drop the paddle in she'll come around with a few strokes .

PJRatpatrol
24 posts
28 Feb 2019 5:36PM
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Well Guys one thing not mentioned was have been in a fair bit of pain in the right shoulder for the last couple of weeks.

Got to a point where it was a bit too sore so went to the physio. Had the examination and he gave me the "you're a dickhead look" in that you have torn a ligament off the rotateor cuff in your shoulder....no wonder it hurts

I gave him the 'so what does that mean" look and the reply was "you are benched for 4-6 weeks"

I said does that mean "I cant paddle?' I did mention I had just bought a new board as a kind of please fix me plea

The you're a dickhead look" came out again and the No you cant paddle reply which was quite firm

He then decided to inflict more pain in what he called therapy, produce some strapping which seemed to go all over my hairy chest so getting that off will be fun

I got the "you are not 20 years old anymore" from the wife which helped

So just in the last stages of summer when its actually quite hot in Melbourne I am benched

You guys enjoy these last weeks, I will spend my time researching wetsuits for winter

DaveSandan
VIC, 820 posts
28 Feb 2019 8:27PM
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Bugger!!!!! That is really not good, 4-5 weeks it will be nearly Easter, low winds sunny days cool nights, great paddling weather. Do leg squats in preparation!

clockout
VIC, 69 posts
1 Mar 2019 3:00PM
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magillamelb said..

PJRatpatrol said..
Hi All

I have been lurking around here a bit and decided to come in from the cold or heat as I'm in Melbourne
I have been SUPing for about 6 months and love it I have a long windsurfing background so was not an issue getting started. Started off with a Sunova one which I love in the surf and when it's calm. However it has its limitations in the chop and doing distance, so looking at a 14 footer
After much research, indecision, procrastination, YouTube, English reviewers (which are quite good I must say) and marketing hype I have narrowed it down to either a SIC RS 14 28" or a Starboard All Star 14" 26". Although as indecisive as I am I could be convinced with a Naish Maliko
For some reason the big dugouts don't do much for me. They remind me of the opening sequence of Hawaii Five O from the 70's so I have flashbacks of "Book em Dano"
80% of the use will be in Port Phillip bay in Melbourne Oz which as the locals know varies quite a bit
I am mid 50's 110kgs (with not much chance of going below that again) so hence the high volume boards.

Any thought or ideas would be welcome




I have a ONE Storm 14' x 28" for sale. A perfect Port Philip Bay board for a bloke your size. Used less than 10 times. As new. With a cover.
You're welcome to take it for a spin...


Is it still for sale?



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