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Bali and corona situation

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Created by pampel 3 months ago, 13 Feb 2020
pampel
67 posts
13 Feb 2020 4:51AM
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Hi,

I am wondering how safe it is at the Moment to book a trip to Bali in regards to the corona Virus. It seems pretty astonishing that there is not one case at the Moment, even though Indo is no1 Destination for chinese People and they banned flights only from the 5th of february. So that means, that from the first discovery of the Virus (xmas 2019) there were every day arriving 5000 chinese People on the Island for 6 weeks. Can't believe that.
Am I paranoid...?
Can anybody on the Island tell me the actual Situation. How do People (locals and Visitors) behave?
Thanks for informations.

KelpoS
88 posts
13 Feb 2020 3:36PM
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ABC radio talkback had an epidemiologist on today and was asked if was safe for a holiday to Vietnam/Singapore in April. He said it would be prudent to avoid non essential travel to the region.

No way I'd take kids to Bali until it all blows over.

benjl
384 posts
13 Feb 2020 3:56PM
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Hmmmm. We are supposed to go there in end of March..

Emeboy
NSW, 302 posts
13 Feb 2020 9:21PM
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Will be there mid March....
Can't put your life on hold for maybes.... just take rational precautions....

hilly
WA, 5262 posts
13 Feb 2020 6:29PM
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Lombok in May. Can't wait +1 above

pete53
NSW, 197 posts
13 Feb 2020 9:56PM
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Tough call given the daily changing statistics/updates. Hard to believe Indo has no cases which casts doubts on other stats imo.

pete53
NSW, 197 posts
13 Feb 2020 9:56PM
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Tough call given the daily changing statistics/updates. Hard to believe Indo has no cases which casts doubts on other stats imo.

pampel
67 posts
13 Feb 2020 7:26PM
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Concerns are definetly there. Can anybody who is on Bali Right now, talk About precautions they take (i.e. Hand desinfectins everywhere, maks, etc)?
Isn't it spooky without the chinese mass tourists?

Emeboy
NSW, 302 posts
13 Feb 2020 11:01PM
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I have got a mate there now and he was also over in Dec....

He is saying that it is busier now than in Dec and no weird goings on.... No doubt business as usual over there.

Bighugg
NT, 402 posts
13 Feb 2020 10:07PM
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Emeboy said..
Will be there mid March....
Can't put your life on hold for maybes.... just take rational precautions....



True that,
we are heading over end of the month.
Will wear masks and see if we can Glen 20 Original the plane....
Read a article earlier on the Garuda planes that carried the suspected Bali cases, they grounded the planes and are disinfected them.

Supnorte
221 posts
13 Feb 2020 8:38PM
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Not clear yet if the Chinese tourist was infected in Bali

Macaha
QLD, 20685 posts
13 Feb 2020 11:58PM
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I'm in Bali ,only heard of one case but the indo government would keep the truth under wraps to avoid a downturn in tourism which has already takin a massive hit due to no Chinese allowed to leave China, it's the quietest I've seen the place. Remember the numbers of Chinese visiting Bali last year was higher than Australians.

micksmith
VIC, 1397 posts
14 Feb 2020 2:30PM
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Don't drink coronas just Bintang hope it's done and dusted by July

Dynymor
VIC, 76 posts
14 Feb 2020 2:38PM
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Don't think a SUP forum is the best place to find info on public health matters...
However, I heard that Indonesia is not actively testing for Covid19 (novel corona virus), so numbers of cases there may never be accurate. Because it is a new disease, the advice on suspected symptoms and what precautions to take from WHO and the health department is changing daily. I head to Bali myself with the family at the end of May, so will be keeping an eye on developments ??

micksmith
VIC, 1397 posts
14 Feb 2020 3:36PM
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Just asked some friends ( Balinese ) in Bali if they have any knowledge on the subject and they said they have not heard of any confirmed reports, one of these friends is a nurse and another a small business owner. That's not to say it hasn't raised its ugly head just hasn't been confirmed.

Macaha
QLD, 20685 posts
14 Feb 2020 3:55PM
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micksmith said..
Just asked some friends ( Balinese ) in Bali if they have any knowledge on the subject and they said they have not heard of any confirmed reports, one of these friends is a nurse and another a small business owner. That's not to say it hasn't raised its ugly head just hasn't been confirmed.


Correct not one case confirmed here in Bali.

R1ChiE
8 posts
15 Feb 2020 3:56AM
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Macaha said..

Correct not one case confirmed here in Bali.


Don't forget that Indo isn't a 1st world country. They don't have the luxuries we have in Aus.

They currently have no means to test for corona virus (they didn't as of a few days ago), and there's no mandatory reporting of any suspected cases

??

backbeach
NSW, 20 posts
15 Feb 2020 8:08PM
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This from ABC news this week stating confirmed case in Bali but a "don't panic, keep travelling from health authorities;
www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-13/first-case-of-coronavirus-reportedly-linked-to-bali/11962910
There's another abc article from the 8/2 where china was offering it's Bali citizens a free trip back to Wuhan
Holy fk
www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-08/china-offers-citizens-return-flight-bali-to-wuhan-coronavirus/11945554

fester
WA, 314 posts
15 Feb 2020 7:41PM
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Indonesia only received test kits on the 5/2/22 bit of a worry . www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/14/indonesia-coronavirus-academic-harvard-marc-lipsitch

Bighugg
NT, 402 posts
29 Feb 2020 11:34PM
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Update , from Bali. Arrived yesterday, from Melbourne.
Only people wearing masks at Airports were heat sensors people checking temperatures and a handful of passengers.
I got pulled aside at Melbourne as I was still hot from lugging boards to over Size checkin .
Bali is quite, they are missing the Chinese for shopping/spending. Great for us to speed shop.

ghost4man
350 posts
1 Mar 2020 3:04PM
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R1ChiE said..

Macaha said..

Correct not one case confirmed here in Bali.



Don't forget that Indo isn't a 1st world country. They don't have the luxuries we have in Aus.

They currently have no means to test for corona virus (they didn't as of a few days ago), and there's no mandatory reporting of any suspected cases

??


Even if they did they wouldn't report it anyway.

I've been to Bali a number of times over the last decade as many others have.

It will be business as usual for them.

I would not trust the CCP in China at all. Whatever they say multiply by 100 and then some. They represent typical government and never want to appear as if they are losing control.

Fitzsup
NSW, 142 posts
2 Mar 2020 9:36AM
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Wife and friends just came back from Bali,said there was no problem.Just take normal Bali precautions, hygiene ,wipe your hands with baby wipes,stay hydrated and as here in Oz don't let people cough sneeze or spit on you.

RbGar
70 posts
2 Mar 2020 8:15AM
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Dynymor said..
Don't think a SUP forum is the best place to find info on public health matters...
However, I heard that Indonesia is not actively testing for Covid19 (novel corona virus), so numbers of cases there may never be accurate. Because it is a new disease, the advice on suspected symptoms and what precautions to take from WHO and the health department is changing daily. I head to Bali myself with the family at the end of May, so will be keeping an eye on developments ??


Yup but here in states on the standup zone all the butthurt liberal jackasses are blaming everything on Trump, yes it's his fault... what a buck of ****king idiots

Rossall
WA, 551 posts
2 Mar 2020 3:47PM
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Everyone is panicking, especially the media. Currently travel bans for Iran and China but although Italy has one of the largest outbreaks outside China you are ok to go to Venice, strange that ??. Basically it's going global and I guess there is nothing we can do about it. Won't stop my Lombok Trip that's for sure, in fact just back and going again 8 weeks

benjl
384 posts
2 Mar 2020 4:05PM
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Im supposed to be taking my gf there for the first time in 2.5 weeks! fingers crossed.. most likely have to self quarantine now that nz is having its first cases

colas
3836 posts
2 Mar 2020 4:54PM
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Looks like the biggest danger at this point is being in some place that can be easily cut-off and quarantined (boat, hotel, plane, hospital, jail ...), and being stuck for days if somebody cough, transforming it into a giant Petri Dish managed by incompetent authorities (Iran, US, China, North Korea, ... all the autoritarian regimes caring more about propaganda than actual actions) making all inside contaminated.

Rossall
WA, 551 posts
2 Mar 2020 9:12PM
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To put it in prospective from "USA Today"



During the 2018-2019 season, the CDC estimates 16.5 million people went to a health care provider for the flu and more than 34,000 people died in the U.S. The prior season saw 61,000 deaths.

colas
3836 posts
3 Mar 2020 12:43AM
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The problem I see is not the mortality rate per se, but the amount of people that will need heavy medical equipment and qualified personnel to survive (artificial respirators). So as long as you can have access to these facilities the lethality seems "only" around 10-20 times the one for the flu, but things may get ugly (riots) if there are more critically ill people than available equipment.

With the flu, the critical cases are spread thin upon a lot of hospitals. Plus the medical personnel is vaccinated against the flu and can handle quickly and efficiently sick people without the need for protective gear and without becoming a major infectious vector themselves.

Compare the current figure of 5% of cov-19 infected people needing artificial breathing, and for instance in the UK "A senior consultant from north London added the NHS was prepared for the odd one or two cases but anymore would mean a major incident"
www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-uk-deaths-nhs-intensive-care-flu-wise-men-protocol-a9361916.html

Supnorte
221 posts
3 Mar 2020 1:12AM
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I'll be there in a month
And today the firts 2 cases were diagnosed in Portugal, and right in the city where I live (Porto). But my only fear is that I'm not allowed to travel due to some quarantine or travel bans. I've already paid for the hotel and flights, for 4 people (me, my wife and two kids).
My wife is a bit of a hypochondriac, but strangely she's not affraid of the convid-19 or coronavirus.

Bighugg
NT, 402 posts
3 Mar 2020 8:28AM
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Mask indicator,
When I left Bali early yesterday morning , people wearing masks were mainly staff in high traffic areas with some aircrew also. Seemed a personal choice as with small number of passengers.
Where as Bangkok airport workers, taxis drivers are nearly all masks. Again Low usage with passengers. 1st time here so I don't know if masks are the norm.
2 confirm cases for Indonesia on John Hopkins map site today.

Back to Bali today for Salt water therapy to be on the safe side



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