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Created by Frothn 29 days ago, 20 May 2019
Frothn
39 posts
20 May 2019 8:38AM
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Just wondering what boards and what liters/ dimensions you have progressed to surfing over the years ??

My first surf shape was a pro wave 8"10 119 L - 29.25 wide. It took me a long while to get used to that board at 6"2 and 90 plus Kgs. It had a very small sweet spot when standing and a lot of yaw.
It was hard in heavy chop but I got used to it and used to glide into anything at just under 9 foot. Surfed well but wanted to try something different.

I then bought a yob 8"3 107- at 29 wide. I have been surfing that since the start of the year and moving back down south to where the waves are from the desert up north ????. I couldn't believe how stable the board was being slightly underwater but also down to 87kg has helped, Obviously the shape helps as well but it surfs unreal is easy to control in the chop still a bit of work but found a new love haha. So I just sold my prowave.

I just picked up a starboard pro 8"0 by 28 at 105 liters to give a shot, Will be interesting to see how that goes at 28 wide and 6"2 have not had a chance to ride the board yet. Anyways for me dialing down the liters to where you really feel you can surf the boards how you want is well worth the effort.

Interested in other people's journeys and where they are now and your progression. Cheers keep frothn

benjl
241 posts
20 May 2019 11:27AM
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Hey mate,
im interested to hear how you go with the starboard pro as well. I got the 8'5 x 29 x 112l board when I was starting out and it was a struggle in chop and strong currents.

saying that I'm now on an 8'3 x 28.5 x 105 jimmy Lewis supertech that I'm more than comfortable on. Even in big stuff!

ive had a stack of boards before and inbetween this. Started on a 9'0 x 29 mctavish but struggled in choppy stuff with it (also was just off a snapped archillies tendon so my balance was bad anyway). Then an sb pocket rocket 8'5 x 30 which was awesome, the sb 8'5 pro, an 8'1 x27 gulliver vbox, then my lowest volume board was a 8'0 x27 x 93l sunova flash, 8'4 x 28 jc deep pro 103l, and now settled on the Jimmy lewis.

in my personal opinion, the most stable boards are the ones just just a single or double concave. Anything with channels or vee will make it more tippy and prone to rocking

Brenno
QLD, 683 posts
20 May 2019 2:41PM
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Picked up my first SUP just over 6 years ago.
It was a Naish 10'10" oil tanker (aka Nalu), and at 32" wide, 4 & 3/8" thick and 201L it must have been quite a terrifying sight coming down at wave at you. Especially with a 6'2" hairy beast (and quite a bit rounder at the time) on board.
I would really have to sit down and look through my photos, and do quite a bit of brow furrowing to remember them all, but have ranged since then from up to 11'4" all the way down to 8'0", with many varying designs, styles, shapes, widths, volumes and construction. Some more successful than others. Lots of fun trying, and spent too much doing it.
Currently on a 9'0" x 28" x 125 litre longboard shape with some funky tail magic, and very happy with that.

micksmith
VIC, 1304 posts
20 May 2019 4:12PM
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My stats -
height = 5'10
weight = 82kg
Age= 57
years SUP = 10yrs I think
first board Naish 10'6' Didn't enjoy it and quickly moved on to a PSH ripper 9'3" then laguna bay 8'8" then hobie CM 8'4" then deep 8'2" now a starboard 8' x 28 pro and a 10' Laird ( I don't surf the Laird really )

colas
3192 posts
20 May 2019 2:32PM
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I have had more than 45 boards in 10 years SUPing, and tried many more.

At 100kg, I had lengths varying between 5'9" to 9'11", width from 27" to 32" (tried 24"), volumes between 105 to 155 liters (tried 84 liters). And plenty of very different shapes.

If I was to have one board now for Hossegor, it would be something like 7'8" x 29" x 110 liters, semi wide nose. But I have a quiver (8 boards in the van) so I have also:
- longer boards (9'3"), the max that fits in my van) to noseride, cross-step, drop knee turn
- shorter boards (6'10") to have more fun in smaller waves (Summer is coming!)
- lower volume boards (105l) for powerful/fast waves
- higher volume boards (125 liters) for gutless waves or lots of water movements or more paddling speed (shifting peaks)
- wider boards (30") for stability
- narrow boards (27") for hollow waves.
- a foil board (and a wing sail in the future?)

I would recommend to get down in size (try to decrease one parameter at a time) to progress and know your limits, and then settle on the dimensions that maximizes your fun for the kind of spot you ride. If you can have 2 boards, having a comfy one and a challenging one is a good option.

But I have not explored yet all compromises. For instance, I am yet undecided on which is better: an undersized fast and stable shape, or an oversized tight-turning nimble one. (in the Gong line: undersized Karmen or oversized Alley?)

Frothn
39 posts
20 May 2019 8:15PM
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Good points, I think being taller at 6"2 just doesn't help when the boards width comes in. Saying that I thought
i wouldn't get used to 29 wide but did. So going from 29 to 28 and 2 litres less than my current board might be a struggle at first but will get used to it i think . What's your height and weight Benji ?

I guess there is always a compromise in each situation different waves different feels ect haha.
I few sessions with my mate on an allwave at 32 wide I wonder how he missed some of the waves when I could
glide in on my prowave. I didn't realise until I had a shot at how slow it paddled onto waves. Too wide and friction I guess. I think I'll be keeping under 30 inches wide no doubt. How skinny can I go I don't know 29 is good next challenge is 28. I guess then wondering how low litres I can go. People can't believe when your on a 107 L but then that's still 20 L over my weight so still room to play with


MattBailey
NSW, 45 posts
21 May 2019 6:38PM
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started with 8'6X30 at 117 litres (and 106kg) and progressed over 2 years down to a 7'4X24 @75L (80kgs).

Going to try 7'0X24 @73 litres (and get down to 77kgs or so).

I actually don't mind negative volume boards. My jp 7'2x25 was WAY better / easier when in negative volume.

Frothn
39 posts
22 May 2019 1:20AM
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MattBailey said..
started with 8'6X30 at 117 litres (and 106kg) and progressed over 2 years down to a 7'4X24 @75L (80kgs).

Going to try 7'0X24 @73 litres (and get down to 77kgs or so).

I actually don't mind negative volume boards. My jp 7'2x25 was WAY better / easier when in negative volume.


Matt good name haha. Mate that's epic stats, all the weight stripped away haha and 75L boards that's crazy, how tall are ya mate ?

ao what your saying is going down to 28 wide should be a walk in the park for me

MattBailey
NSW, 45 posts
23 May 2019 6:31PM
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i'm around 5'11 I think / 180cm

FRP
259 posts
24 May 2019 6:25AM
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Boards to date

Laird 10' x 27" wide (ok on flat water but too narrow to start out in waves) then
Fanatic Fly 9' x 29" (still to narrow to consistently catch waves) then
Starboard Whopper 10' x 34 "(caught everything but when waves shoulder to head high way too much board and seriously thought it would kill me and nearly did)then
Starboard Widepoint 9'5 x 32"
(great board that at 70kg quickly progressed through) then
Sunova Skate 8'10" (really started to feel like I was surfing, now a bit too much volume and will sell soon) then
Sunova Speeed 8'10" (omg I love this board, stable, fast and a joy to paddle, will keep a long time)
Sunova Creek 8'7" ( great board and is pushing me to be a better surfer)

Bob

supthecreek
1720 posts
24 May 2019 6:32PM
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71 years old
130 kg down to 95 kg.... fluctuate between 95 kg and 103 kg .... depending on how much time I spend on road trips

Started at 62 yo on 11'2 x 36" (230 L)
worked my way down in weight and board size
basically bandied about between 8'10 and 9'6
plus I always had a 10'6 because I like a longboard in my quiver

I have an 8'3 x 32 (123L) that is fun in the right conditions

as I get older I have settled between
9'0 x 31 (130 L) summer
9'4 x 32 (148 L) winter gear

I have lost count of how many boards I actually have.....
but there are 8 or 9 that I ride quite a bit.

and now my newest love
12' x 32 (199L) glide and carve in one awesome package... an insanely fun direction!

My goal is to have a great performance board at all times
but have lots of variety to keep things interesting.

My basic comfort zone is 1.3 to 1.4 times weight
But I don't mind higher volume in my fun boards

Frothn
39 posts
31 May 2019 8:46AM
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Nice work guys, I really found the swing weight from getting down to closer to 8 foot is amazing. Shorter board so much easier to turn and put on rail, also feel a lot more confident pulling into steep or pitching sections. Knowing that you can hand the line without it getting pulled up from under you in the wave. I now can confidently pull in or hit the end section or when it closes out ect with confidence, it just makes you surf better.

Smiles on the dial all around when your wave count is through the roof and your loving life haha.

toolate
60 posts
31 May 2019 3:54PM
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Frothn said..
Nice work guys, I really found the swing weight from getting down to closer to 8 foot is amazing. Shorter board so much easier to turn and put on rail, also feel a lot more confident pulling into steep or pitching sections. Knowing that you can hand the line without it getting pulled up from under you in the wave. I now can confidently pull in or hit the end section or when it closes out ect with confidence, it just makes you surf better.

Smiles on the dial all around when your wave count is through the roof and your loving life haha.


THIS!
I moved down to a JL Supertech 7'10 and make some steep drops even pitching drops that i would never make on my 8'7. So much more control.
The sacrifice is a bit harder time getting onto the wave. Later take offs.

Frothn
39 posts
31 May 2019 9:19PM
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The sacrifices are all worth it haha that sounds epic. Much less nose diving on late drops . Really looking forward to trying my 8 foot starby pro. Yeoww keep pushing as it's always worth the effort

Slab
904 posts
1 Jun 2019 3:07AM
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I've progressed onto longer boards.....just more fun in all the conditions I surf in. I still have a shorter board which is great on a wave....but I miss the easy early entry.

Frothn
39 posts
3 Jun 2019 10:49PM
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I found there is a lot less swing weight with turning the board though when shorter, but your right the 8,10 glided into anything. I think always being under 30 wide is key to get good glide into waves

colas
3192 posts
4 Jun 2019 2:05PM
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Frothn said..
I found there is a lot less swing weight with turning the board though when shorter


As I am short and cannot widen my stance due to stiff hips, I also love short boards because I can have a proper stance on them for efficient turns: front foot just behind the handle, and back foot on the kickpad. On longer boards I have to move a lot, breaking the flow of turns.

Kami
1366 posts
4 Jun 2019 2:11PM
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Boards people have progressed to in the surf... I learn to paddle on 9'8" SB SuperFish and had a lot of fun with it, Thx Scotty . And I quickly my own board coming down to small size because I wanted to have the manoeuvrability of the shortboard and the power of the longboard.

In the small waves up to 4 ' of my home beach break where surfing good condition is glassy or offshore, they are boards like my short SUPs around 6'5" 28" with attached bodyboard tail parts.
Those boards provide early take off compared as the prone one due to a flat entry rocker like the spoon of the longboard is, fast due to its parallel rail down the line or high on the wall, very loose due to his belly bottom shape and hips of tail lift, awesome cutback and bounce due to the with and flexion of the bodyboard tail.

Mates, such an unforgettable experience SUPing is in surfing life

Gboots
NSW, 674 posts
4 Jun 2019 6:46PM
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Progression and regression in order over last 20 months with boards I have used
1.Started with 9'0 Starboard Converse isup ....surprisingly good for a first crack.
2. Waterborne Evoke 7'11. Just too hard to get in wave with that wide shape
3. Atlantis Venom. Awesome for gliding onto sliders but a pain out of water . Not good for beach breaks
4. 8'8 Speeed . The game changer for me. Was absolutely awesome for getting on wave, great nose kick and wash paddler
5. 7'5 ECS Slab. Awesome for mushy stuff and for rebuilding confidence on a short board
6. 9'1 Acid . My favourite all rounder and current go to for most conditions except steep low tide beach breaks .
7. Starby Pro 8'0. Next challenge . Quite tippy for its size but very lose on tail and catches waves pretty well for size . Use in clean conditions up to 2ft for now.

The Speeed at the time was the one that really made it easy for me to gain confidence . Performance shape but oversized and yet not wide .

surfinJ
427 posts
4 Jun 2019 7:33PM
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After an easy start on a Big Easy's 12' x 200l I eventually progressed down to a 8-4 120l short board shape.

Though I do let myself regress back to my large longboard shapes regularly to enjoy the mix.

cbigsup
332 posts
5 Jun 2019 6:16AM
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Angulo Surfa
8'8" changed it all for me. Wide at 32" which I needed due my injuries (crappy balance), short enough to turn on a wave, and the step bump tail helped tighten up the turning radius.

And the carbon was pretty light back in the day!

Frothn
39 posts
5 Jun 2019 10:06PM
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Gboots what year is your 8,0 starby pro?

Yeh my mates all wave at 32 wide is so nice and stable but really found it slow to paddle and struggled to get into
waves as maybe i wasn't used to it. Even with the all wave at 8,6 and my yob at 8,3 I never knew why he missed some waves I could have glided into until I tried the allwave. I realised how much extra drag there is from the 32 wide compared to my 29 wide was very interesting.

Gboots
NSW, 674 posts
6 Jun 2019 1:46PM
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2018 Starlite

Frothn
39 posts
6 Jun 2019 1:23PM
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Nice one ... I guess everyone has their different journey in sup about what they want to do and ride ect. But at the end of the day when you come in and your wave count is through the roof and you got a smile from here to here, that's really all that matters.

As pushing the volume and challenge isn't everyone's cup of coffee, but it's always fun testing different boards/ fins and getting different feelings on the waves. That's what keeps it exciting and fresh

Gboots
NSW, 674 posts
6 Jun 2019 5:03PM
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Personally I want a mix of wave count and to be able to advance what I can do on a wave . I keep losing weight so that changes things too. Down from 66kg to 60kg and even less . So 120 L boards start to get massive . 100L is nice for Starby Pro but theoretically still voluminous . As an all rounder I love my Acid 9'1 most. Wave count high and loose enough even at that size for me

SunnyBouy
339 posts
6 Jun 2019 7:49PM
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I borrowed a mates 10ft Na-Skwell for a couple of months then:
Speeed 8'10 (now sold)
Flow 8'7 (a keeper)
Shroom 8'3 (now sold)
Shroom 7'6 (a keeper)

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76/78kgs
Slashy kinda style



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