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Rail tape

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Created by Kela 24 days ago, 27 Oct 2019
Kela
22 posts
27 Oct 2019 2:24PM
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After some rail tape advice.
Can any of you knowledgeable folk recommended a particular brand?
I gave it a go with the tape provided.....thought I nailed it, however after a few surfs it has started to peel back in parts. Not sure if user error or the tape? I guess it would be good to hear any tricks or tips for application too.....
Cheers

Fitzsup
NSW, 97 posts
27 Oct 2019 4:31PM
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Check out the foiling thread.

Kela
22 posts
27 Oct 2019 3:04PM
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Yeah cheers! After a wider search I found heaps of stuff in forums of sea breeze!
I definitely don't want to fire up the Puka Patch v RSPro issue again.....
After a quick look the RSPro Xtreme seems very suitable at 5 foot by 5cm.

DCeeSup
VIC, 8 posts
27 Oct 2019 5:59PM
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Hi, I have tried various types, the RS Pro was the better tape out of the basic cheap tape and th Ion tape

Nugdam
QLD, 323 posts
27 Oct 2019 8:14PM
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I've been using rs pro on a few boards now.. great stuff

Feps
NSW, 91 posts
27 Oct 2019 8:59PM
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Ion tape on last 5 boards. Tough as nails

shi thouse
WA, 837 posts
27 Oct 2019 9:33PM
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Yep, second the Ion tape....good stuff.

Kela
22 posts
28 Oct 2019 10:10AM
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Cheers everyone. I will report back on the RSPro once I give it a go.

Nugdam
QLD, 323 posts
28 Oct 2019 9:15PM
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Kela said..
Cheers everyone. I will report back on the RSPro once I give it a go.


You'll love it. They have some installation videos on YouTube which help a bunch.

Mark _australia
WA, 19601 posts
6 Nov 2019 3:22PM
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I would never use it.

It is a pain to remove when you ding the board properly, as a repairer I have to add a lot of $$$ to a job due to that pain in the arse muck.
Tape the paddle properly, that's all you need. Nobody puts rail tape all over the top front 1/3 of the deck where we see lots of insignificant paddle strikes, do they?

If you want to sell the board later, 10 min with a buffing compound removes all the little smears n stripes on the rail.

Rail tape is the greatest con the industry came up with.

cantSUPenough
VIC, 1846 posts
6 Nov 2019 8:21PM
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Mark _australia said..
I would never use it.

It is a pain to remove when you ding the board properly, as a repairer I have to add a lot of $$$ to a job due to that pain in the arse muck.
Tape the paddle properly, that's all you need. Nobody puts rail tape all over the top front 1/3 of the deck where we see lots of insignificant paddle strikes, do they?

If you want to sell the board later, 10 min with a buffing compound removes all the little smears n stripes on the rail.

Rail tape is the greatest con the industry came up with.


Interesting...

I just bought three boards and three packets of expensive rail tape, but have basically been too lazy/busy to install it. And now I have used the boards and have little marks on the rails.

I was wondering about two issues: a) how hard would it be to remove the marks, and Mark has answered that. But b) does the tape protect the board? With tape on the paddle blade, is it possible to chip the rail or give it a "micro-ding"? I wondered if the thickness of the tape added some "padding" to absorb the impact.

Brenno
QLD, 711 posts
6 Nov 2019 9:02PM
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Mark _australia said..
I would never use it.

It is a pain to remove when you ding the board properly, as a repairer I have to add a lot of $$$ to a job due to that pain in the arse muck.
Tape the paddle properly, that's all you need. Nobody puts rail tape all over the top front 1/3 of the deck where we see lots of insignificant paddle strikes, do they?

If you want to sell the board later, 10 min with a buffing compound removes all the little smears n stripes on the rail.

Rail tape is the greatest con the industry came up with.






Depends on the board.
Yes I wasted my time putting it on my Smik board, you'd have to take an axe to it to damage the coating on the rails. The hexa traction takes care of the 1/3 area you describe.
However if you want to protect the rails on the glossy painted big name boards, it's a good investment if you're looking to offload them.
I agree that taping your paddle, and using it properly, is all you need if you surf a well constructed board, or if you don't give a crap about your poorly constructed expensive one, or cheap piece of poop.
And back to the original question, RSPro is the sh1t, but none of them are super easy to apply. Or remove.

ghost4man
327 posts
6 Nov 2019 7:10PM
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cantSUPenough said..

Mark _australia said..
I would never use it.

It is a pain to remove when you ding the board properly, as a repairer I have to add a lot of $$$ to a job due to that pain in the arse muck.
Tape the paddle properly, that's all you need. Nobody puts rail tape all over the top front 1/3 of the deck where we see lots of insignificant paddle strikes, do they?

If you want to sell the board later, 10 min with a buffing compound removes all the little smears n stripes on the rail.

Rail tape is the greatest con the industry came up with.



Interesting...

I just bought three boards and three packets of expensive rail tape, but have basically been too lazy/busy to install it. And now I have used the boards and have little marks on the rails.

I was wondering about two issues: a) how hard would it be to remove the marks, and Mark has answered that. But b) does the tape protect the board? With tape on the paddle blade, is it possible to chip the rail or give it a "micro-ding"? I wondered if the thickness of the tape added some "padding" to absorb the impact.


I suspect Mark is being a gentleman here because I think a big part of the problem lies with the quality of the workmanship in the boards themselves.

I've been on enough boards and swung enough boards around to know that some makes are more bullet proof than others.

Too many of us want to just get out and play on our boards without paying attention to focusing on things like good paddle technique which can go a long way to preserving your equipment.

colas
3475 posts
6 Nov 2019 8:45PM
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cantSUPenough said..
I wondered if the thickness of the tape added some "padding" to absorb the impact.


Of course, you need some shock absorbing material to dampen the shock between two hard parts, especially if they are carbon. Otherwise you are creating structure-damaging impacts that will trigger unexpected failure down the road. But you don't need a rail tape to protect the rails, and especially the paddle blade, some helicopter tape around the blade is sufficient, or the plastic liner that some blade edges have.

cantSUPenough
VIC, 1846 posts
7 Nov 2019 7:25AM
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colas said..

cantSUPenough said..
I wondered if the thickness of the tape added some "padding" to absorb the impact.



Of course, you need some shock absorbing material to dampen the shock between two hard parts, especially if they are carbon. Otherwise you are creating structure-damaging impacts that will trigger unexpected failure down the road. But you don't need a rail tape to protect the rails, and especially the paddle blade, some helicopter tape around the blade is sufficient, or the plastic liner that some blade edges have.


Do you add rail tape to your boards?

Paddle technique is an interesting topic. Recently I watched a video promoting/teaching the J-stroke, but that results in the paddle being directed towards the board. I have been experimenting with that but it has resulted in extra impacts.

JEG
VIC, 1325 posts
7 Nov 2019 7:54AM
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also, agree with Mark _australia, some of these brands' rail tapes and paddle tapes are a ripoff and also some are too thick or do not stick properly.
a paddle tape is good enough and if you like putting your board side down or to protect from side scratches and damages then a rail tape is another 2nd option. A quick and easy and cheap paddle tape is electrical tape but it won't last long and in my opinion, helicopter tape cut to sizes is the best for both paddle and board.

Kela
22 posts
7 Nov 2019 1:57PM
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I like the RSPro tape I got because it is very thin and short, just enough to protect the impact spot on the rail. Also enough to protect the board when I lay it on side. Seems to be two schools of thought on taping the paddle, don't think I will ever be giving that a go.

MarkW81
VIC, 53 posts
7 Nov 2019 9:19PM
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If you want extra padding on the paddle blade, Clarke Rubber have rubber edging you can tape around the edge.

There's a few different versions, so plenty of options and only about $9 per meter.

Cheers Mark

lam
VIC, 55 posts
8 Nov 2019 9:46AM
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I just wack a bit of electrical tape on my blade it works fine. It wears out after awhile and takes 5 minutes to reapply. Usually use yellow, so if I lose my paddle after getting wiped, which has happened a few times, it is easier to see in the water.



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