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what 12ft board for surfing

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Created by broadman > 9 months ago, 15 Dec 2019
broadman
156 posts
15 Dec 2019 2:57PM
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Have a smaller wave that breaks reasonably often that cries out for a 12ft board. Is the venom the best option or are there more. Cheers

kev7
WA, 132 posts
15 Dec 2019 3:29PM
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12 ft sunova point break

cantSUPenough
VIC, 2122 posts
15 Dec 2019 8:22PM
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kev7 said..
12 ft sunova point break


I have the same board - so far I love it. You get on to the wave early and you can surf it. I have zero experience with other 12' boards.

Area10
1508 posts
16 Dec 2019 3:32AM
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Either the 11-6 Hypr Hawaii gun or the 12-6 Gun.

The 11-6 is super-surfable and fast waaaay beyond it's size, and the 12-6 is for those who like plenty of stability with their speed.
Both are FAR more stable than you'd think from their widths, and very strong and well-made. You can't compare their construction with the offerings from eg. the Cobra factory in Thailand. There is simply no comparison.

I own the 10-6, 11-6 and 12-6 guns, and I have a 14ft version coming in a few days.

I surf all these at an offshore sandbank bombie about a mile out to sea. They are insane.

supthecreek
2585 posts
16 Dec 2019 4:51AM
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broadman said..
Have a smaller wave that breaks reasonably often that cries out for a 12ft board. Is the venom the best option or are there more. Cheers

I highly recommend answering that cry!
Sooo much fun to have in your quiver!

Here's a look at my 12' Sunova Point Break

Helmy
VIC, 796 posts
16 Dec 2019 9:17AM
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Thanks Rick for cheering up another Monday morning at work for me.

Area 10, are you importing the Hypr's yourself or do you have an agent over there?
What are the other dimensions for each model?

Broadman, I've also surfed a couple of Nozza's 12' PSH Guns.
They are surprisingly good in a small swell.
But heavy.
I don't like surfing them in a crowded break - anyone that get's hit will stay hit.

wazza66
QLD, 607 posts
16 Dec 2019 7:51PM
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Find an old PSH 12 ft gun.

Solid board for big or small waves.

Pretty sure there was never a 12'6 PSH surfing board made.

broadman
156 posts
17 Dec 2019 1:33AM
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Thanks for your input. 12ft point break is looking good.

supthecreek
2585 posts
17 Dec 2019 5:55AM
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Here's a look at the Point Break in small, low power waves, if you haven't seen this vid before.

Helmy
VIC, 796 posts
17 Dec 2019 10:10AM
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Jeez Rick, I fell for it again!
TUESDAY morning at work and I'm watching your vid's again!

supthecreek
2585 posts
17 Dec 2019 9:50AM
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Jeez Rick, I fell for it again!
TUESDAY morning at work and I'm watching your vid's again!


lol.... glad I could bring SUP surf into the workplace

Area10
1508 posts
19 Dec 2019 1:37AM
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Helmy said..
Area 10, are you importing the Hypr's yourself or do you have an agent over there?
What are the other dimensions for each model?


We have an agent here. But they ship worldwide.

But why stop at 12ft? Here's their latest model: 14ft x 26" x 4.4" Hypr Hawaii gun.

I'm getting a double-carbon full PVC sandwich one with minimal graphics (the first one shown). But I can do this because I live in a cold climate... I reckon given your present heatwave you'd be better of with the wood construction versions (below is one example of the several different tropical hardwood versions they do).










LucBenac
432 posts
19 Dec 2019 3:24AM
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Area10 said..

Helmy said..
Area 10, are you importing the Hypr's yourself or do you have an agent over there?
What are the other dimensions for each model?



We have an agent here. But they ship worldwide.

But why stop at 12ft? Here's their latest model: 14ft x 26" x 4.4" Hypr Hawaii gun.

I'm getting a double-carbon full PVC sandwich one with minimal graphics (the first one shown). But I can do this because I live in a cold climate... I reckon given your present heatwave you'd be better of with the wood construction versions (below is one example of the several different tropical hardwood versions they do).











Can we get a view straight from teh top and the rocker too?
It looks like the raisl are very parallel all teh way to the nose?

Thanks.

Area10
1508 posts
19 Dec 2019 4:17AM
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LucBenac said..
Can we get a view straight from teh top and the rocker too?
It looks like the raisl are very parallel all teh way to the nose?

Thanks.


Yes, that's right. The board is a multipurpose board designed for surf, downwind, and general fitness paddling, so needed to:
(a) be maximally stable for its width.
(b) to track very well for distance paddling.
(c) have enough width at the rear to pick up small bumps easily.
(d) have enough volume in the nose that it doesn't pearl when downwinding.
(e) have just enough rocker for surf and downwind, but otherwise have the fastest possible rocker (the concaves add a lot of lift so this design can get away with a flatter rocker than most guns).

These criteria are best achieved by having fairly parallel rails and a special fast rockerline.

Here it is being shaped, below. Mine is 2x6oz carbon with full PVC wrap, vacuum-bagged 3 times, thick wood stringer with special s-glass I-beam reinforcement to make it very stiff and strong, wood nose and tail blocks, with FCS mount nose and tail, double leash-plugs and plugs at tail for deck bungees for summer cruising, kickpad, gortex vent, ledge handle etc. The full monty. The wood ones use a very thick tropical hardwood laminate (e.g. 3mm rather than a typical 0.6mm that you can find on many production boards) so they are very stiff, strong and durable. There is a video somewhere of someone losing their Hypr board while surfing and it washing onto a load of rocks in Hawaii, getting repeatedly bashed on them, and when it is hauled out of the water there are only a few small scratches on it. Your standard production board would have needed extensive repairs and a lot of water pulling out of it.

Incredibly, despite this superb construction with the finest materials and all the trimmings, these boards are quite a bit cheaper than e.g. a 2020 Starboard carbon raceboard. Which makes you wonder about the value we are getting from the main brands...








Probably a good retailer would import one for you from Hypr Hawaii if you didn't want to do it yourself. You could ask the owner of the company, Ian Foo in Hawaii if he has a contact near you. There are UK and European distributors, and obviously the US is covered, but I don't know about Oz.

Area10
1508 posts
19 Dec 2019 4:23AM
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Oh, and before anyone thinks that these boards are too narrow and low volume for their weight, check this guy out on a 9-6 Hypr gun. They are crazy stable for their width so you can go much narrower than you think.

This is one of my favourite SUP surf videos...

JEG
VIC, 1469 posts
19 Dec 2019 10:15AM
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nice boards Area10 and its nice to see someone make an effort making good quality boards

cantSUPenough
VIC, 2122 posts
19 Dec 2019 10:58AM
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Area10 said..
Oh, and before anyone thinks that these boards are too narrow and low volume for their weight, check this guy out on a 9-6 Hypr gun. They are crazy stable for their width so you can go much narrower than you think.

This is one of my favourite SUP surf videos...



That's a great vid! Looks bigger than 9'6, but that is probably thanks to GoPro, not the board.

Area10
1508 posts
19 Dec 2019 8:35AM
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cantSUPenough said..

Area10 said..
Oh, and before anyone thinks that these boards are too narrow and low volume for their weight, check this guy out on a 9-6 Hypr gun. They are crazy stable for their width so you can go much narrower than you think.

This is one of my favourite SUP surf videos...




That's a great vid! Looks bigger than 9'6, but that is probably thanks to GoPro, not the board.


Yeah it does look bigger, but I assure you it isn't. He's a big guy too. He's a Hawaiian lifeguard in his day job, I think.

MangoDingo
NT, 891 posts
19 Dec 2019 2:48PM
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Area10 said..

But why stop at 12ft?



Have to agree with Area10 on this one, having recently picked up a new 14' - it opens up a whole new world of possibilities, you never knew existed in terms of boards and what can be surfed.

If you're thinking about going a 12', get yrself a 14'.

Ya might as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb.

dcenzed
34 posts
21 Dec 2019 4:08AM
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I have a starboard blend which is from memory an 11.2. It's fantastic in small choppy waves as well as bigger ones and you can even nose ride it. works even better when put a big longboard fin it as well.

Smash1
NSW, 824 posts
21 Dec 2019 11:54AM
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You cannot go past the Venom. An epic board in 2' or 30'

MarkW81
VIC, 85 posts
21 Dec 2019 3:54PM
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Smash1 said..
You cannot go past the Venom. An epic board in 2' or 30'


Can you still get them?



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