Decrepit.
No one really lands nose first on purpose.
While it is smoother and safer than flat landings, the chances of too much nose [augers in at speed is a form of pearling], or not enough nose [flat] is too high a price.
Tail first is safest and easiest to replicate.
Easy to plane out of tail first landings, if you have forward speed.
I have broken in half, 6 high wind boards from bad flat landings.
Well I used to do nose first landings on purpose, so did a lot of others around here. The landing is very soft and hardly any speed lost, but as soon as my heavy nose rocker disappeared, that all changed, as you say, became much too risky.
I've talked to dozens of acknowledged great jumpers and none advocate nose landing.
However, I know several "verge of sponsorship" guys who say they land nose first, but they are NOT the best jumpers on any given day.
The 4 local Pro freestyles here in SF bay will say I still qualify as a better than average big jumper.
Two were pros until 5 years ago.
2 still are.
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Well I used to do nose first landings on purpose, so did a lot of others around here. The landing is very soft and hardly any speed lost, but as soon as my heavy nose rocker disappeared, that all changed, as you say, became much too risky.
Funny..... I did too. I never liked the slow drag up onto the plane after a good jump
Yeah, if you jump 5 times a day, you can land nose first.
We're talking flat water, not wave sailing.
Flat water jumping, it's EASY to plane out of landings.
Since you can't, maybe you CAN jump, but would you say you are a good jumper?
Not a chance!
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Yeah, if you jump 5 times a day, you can land nose first.
We're talking flat water, not wave sailing.
Flat water jumping, it's EASY to plane out of landings.
Since you can't, maybe you CAN jump, but would you say you are a good jumper?
Not a chance!
Dude, have you ever considered that you might not know everything? 
Tell me you are or were one of the best jumpers and I will believe you.
I am top 5% jumper in the SF Bay area, with plenty of pros,known to you, who will verify.
And I admit I suck at windfoiling.
Stop with the "Im **** hot and a legend" stuff. Seriously, you must have a million tickets on yourself.
I used to land flat... but then I did have a Tiga and my ankles were more likely to break than the board.
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I've talked to dozens of acknowledged great jumpers and none advocate nose landing.
However, I know several "verge of sponsorship" guys who say they land nose first, but they are NOT the best jumpers on any given day.
The 4 local Pro freestyles here in SF bay will say I still qualify as a better than average big jumper.
Two were pros until 5 years ago.
2 still are.
I wish mine was a big as yours, I am sick of this 10" thing
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I've talked to dozens of acknowledged great jumpers and none advocate nose landing.
However, I know several "verge of sponsorship" guys who say they land nose first, but they are NOT the best jumpers on any given day.
The 4 local Pro freestyles here in SF bay will say I still qualify as a better than average big jumper.
Two were pros until 5 years ago.
2 still are.
You're awesome LeeD!!
I think it's time for a LeeD appreciation thread. That way we can all talk about how awesome you are, you won't have to do it all by yourself anymore.
Perhaps you could send in some of your magazine covers for the thread.
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You're awesome LeeD!!
I think it's time for a LeeD appreciation thread. That way we can all talk about how awesome you are, you won't have to do it all by yourself anymore.
Perhaps you could send in some of your magazine covers for the thread.
You can sign up for sure, but you still have to sail fast and jump high repeatedly to qualify.
Not one jump once.
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You can sign up for sure, but you still have to sail fast and jump high repeatedly to qualify.
Not one jump once.
FFS 
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As said, Bruce Peterson, Mike Kitts, Dale Cook.
Who?
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As said, Bruce Peterson, Mike Kitts, Dale Cook.
Who?
Exactly! ... LeeD no one is Aus gives a $h!t who these guy are. They have their own locals. They aren't Pro's. Any PWA guy could do anything these guys have ever done - better, faster & higher.
Now, don't get me wrong they are all nice guys & good sailors. Next time I talk to Bruce I'll ask him where LeeD sit's on his list of jumping Gurus... Who? ... What list? .... Huh? ... yeah see nobody cares.
BTW... Dale usually lands nose. Don't be a Douchebag!
Actually, seen dozens of videos of Dale jumping really high and most look like normal TAIL first landings.
Sure, lower longer jumps are often nose first landings, but high vertical jumps are different.
Of course, you might not know since you don't speak from experience.
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Actually, seen dozens of videos of Dale jumping really high and most look like normal TAIL first landings.
Sure, lower longer jumps are often nose first landings, but high vertical jumps are different.
Of course, you might not know since you don't speak from experience.
Yeah, what would I know... 
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Sailing again today..... getting a bit sick of using my 5.8 all the time 
Cool! Lets get back on topic. Ditch the i know the nose but just cant pick it, bragging BS.
Looking like we will get yet another 20-30kt Northerly here at GB. Woohoo!! All the regulars plus quite a few travelled sailors. Been a great start to the season.
Yep. Its a solid 20-25 knots all along the coast and 25-30+ in places. Tomorrow and well.
I wonder, do you guys train and workout in the off season specifically for windsurfing?
I never have, maybe that's why I never got good.
Playing tennis and riding bikes do nothing for windsurfing.
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I wonder, do you guys train and workout in the off season specifically for windsurfing?
I never have, maybe that's why I never got good.
Playing tennis and riding bikes do nothing for windsurfing.
No I think you never got good because you spent too much time telling everyone how awesome you are rather than actual sailing.
Playing tennis and riding bikes don't do much for windsurfing, neither does talking **** and dropping names all the time
Funny.
I averaged 90 days a year from '83 to '12, in planing conditions.
Since I retired then, I sail an average of 130 days a year.
Biggest board owned before 2012 was 97 liters.
Bugger off LeeD. Back to topic please.
Hope to see some good speed from our Southern friends today!!
we might get 25 knots if we are lucky
