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Velocicraptor
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24 Feb 2022 6:37AM
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toppleover said..
Pic of the KD13" above the 178 below

Pic below of the Mike Pedigo shorty tail over the KD13 with holes lined up.


The MP shorty tail is my favourite atm, it does imo loose a little bit of pump and drive through turns compared to the KD13 but in small waves really loosens up the 1210 & 980 when shimmed correctly.


Super helpful. Thank you! How are you shimming the KD?

toppleover
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24 Feb 2022 8:48AM
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Velocicraptor said..

toppleover said..
Pic of the KD13" above the 178 below

Pic below of the Mike Pedigo shorty tail over the KD13 with holes lined up.


The MP shorty tail is my favourite atm, it does imo loose a little bit of pump and drive through turns compared to the KD13 but in small waves really loosens up the 1210 & 980 when shimmed correctly.



Super helpful. Thank you! How are you shimming the KD?


Flat shim for 980 (neutral) & negative 1mm for 1210 (more lift), I only shim to get them to turn how I like it.

Hwy1North
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1 Mar 2022 11:26AM
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Velocicraptor said..

toppleover said..
Pic of the KD13" above the 178 below

Pic below of the Mike Pedigo shorty tail over the KD13 with holes lined up.


The MP shorty tail is my favourite atm, it does imo loose a little bit of pump and drive through turns compared to the KD13 but in small waves really loosens up the 1210 & 980 when shimmed correctly.



Super helpful. Thank you! How are you shimming the KD?


The KD 13.5 sits differently on the carbon mast/fuse than does the 178 in that it looks to be more negative or the same as putting a 2mm washer under the front screw of the 178. Using the KD supplied shims, I stack a positive (rear screw shim of the 1.5 and .5. for 2.0.)

Performance wise, the KD really helps to add control. With it, the 1075 is much more stable pitch wise, and probably yaw as well, and this allows for easier banked turns. The 178 feels less stable, but faster, especially for pumping. But I haven't really played around with shims on the 178 as I am so used to the KD and just run it whenever the waves are more than tiny.

If you are using the KD for prone or sup in decent waves, it's the call. They do ride big for their size, so the 13 is probably comparable to the 178.

Velocicraptor
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4 Mar 2022 8:06PM
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I snipped the wingtips off of my 1440 and there is a very slight exposure of the filler core material (foam?). It's just a sliver but I want to seal it up. Any suggestions? Epoxy? I assume it's necessary to do this?

mcrt
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5 Mar 2022 7:04AM
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Velocicraptor said..
I snipped the wingtips off of my 1440 and there is a very slight exposure of the filler core material (foam?). It's just a sliver but I want to seal it up. Any suggestions? Epoxy? I assume it's necessary to do this?



When i chopped the kujira tail i exposed some foam, for very small stuff like that some layers of superglue will work fine.You can apply many because it dries quick and avoid the hassle of mixing resin.

PS : the tail has PVC core (yellowish) i am supposing the front wing too but if it is snow white make sure it is not EPS.
Superglue will eat it.

frenchfoiler
498 posts
5 Mar 2022 3:14PM
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Who shim the base plate for the 1095 ? If so how is your board (box on flat spot or some rocker ?)

exiled
362 posts
5 Mar 2022 4:32PM
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I run the standard Takuma Shim on the carbon mast with the 1095, all the way forward on my mast track, 0 rocker. Of course I'm 103 kg, so I need a little extra lift on the low end.

foilgold
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6 Mar 2022 2:15PM
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frenchfoiler said..
Who shim the base plate for the 1095 ? If so how is your board (box on flat spot or some rocker ?)


Been riding Takuma 1095 with two different boards (3 ft11'' and 4 ft 5'') that both have a little tail rocker. Been using one base plate Takuma shim on each of them so far. Rode 3 ft 11 tow/ pump/ downwind board with ski today with carbon old mast and one base place shim. Intially it was about a little above midway in box (box starts 6 inches from back of board, futures box) Had to move back a little bit because it had too much lift for bumps (was tow downwind assist) and put it in box where i place 980 kujura. Normally ride prone 4 ft 6 board (box starts 6.5 inches forward of tail) and have been liking the 1095 slightly forward in boxes of where I place 980 and 750 kujira foils with one base place shim. Around 90kg

martyman
WA, 314 posts
8 Mar 2022 2:15PM
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foilgold said..

frenchfoiler said..
Who shim the base plate for the 1095 ? If so how is your board (box on flat spot or some rocker ?)



Been riding Takuma 1095 with two different boards (3 ft11'' and 4 ft 5'') that both have a little tail rocker. Been using one base plate Takuma shim on each of them so far. Rode 3 ft 11 tow/ pump/ downwind board with ski today with carbon old mast and one base place shim. Intially it was about a little above midway in box (box starts 6 inches from back of board, futures box) Had to move back a little bit because it had too much lift for bumps (was tow downwind assist) and put it in box where i place 980 kujura. Normally ride prone 4 ft 6 board (box starts 6.5 inches forward of tail) and have been liking the 1095 slightly forward in boxes of where I place 980 and 750 kujira foils with one base place shim. Around 90kg


what's your take on the 1095?

frenchfoiler
498 posts
8 Mar 2022 3:44PM
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martyman said..


foilgold said..



frenchfoiler said..
Who shim the base plate for the 1095 ? If so how is your board (box on flat spot or some rocker ?)





Been riding Takuma 1095 with two different boards (3 ft11'' and 4 ft 5'') that both have a little tail rocker. Been using one base plate Takuma shim on each of them so far. Rode 3 ft 11 tow/ pump/ downwind board with ski today with carbon old mast and one base place shim. Intially it was about a little above midway in box (box starts 6 inches from back of board, futures box) Had to move back a little bit because it had too much lift for bumps (was tow downwind assist) and put it in box where i place 980 kujura. Normally ride prone 4 ft 6 board (box starts 6.5 inches forward of tail) and have been liking the 1095 slightly forward in boxes of where I place 980 and 750 kujira foils with one base place shim. Around 90kg




what's your take on the 1095?



Well is is a hard question, because I'm super confused...

Coming from Unifoil which I still really like (hyper 170/150) because it is super user friendly (the speed stall on the 150 is unmatch for this type of foil) and have good glide. When I tried the 1095 with the right tuned, it felt really good right away, more glide, more speed and better turning than hyper 150 (not as good on the speed stall but not bad). What I like is how fast it is pumping, you can attack the upcoming wave with a good speed. I like also the fact you can push hard on turns, it holds.
The 1095 feels very quick and responsive, more lively.


Also I'm using Axis ART 1099 for DW only, which I love as the speed/glide is just amazing.

So everytime I go back and forth from Axis to Takuma, because of the difference of the stiffness, it takes me a some time to get used to it.

Also I've dealing with lots of issues with my Takuma fuselage. The fus I had was bent, then I I borrowed my friend fus and I used it for 3 weeks, foiling non stop, I was feeling great, perfectly tuned (takuma shim plate and shim under the front screw stab).
But now I'm on a new fus that Takuma sent me and I can't find the same feeling I had so I wonder which one is different...

I just got a Project Cedrus mast so I can use Takuma/Axis/Uni with the same mast to avoid the difference of the mast stifness.


I really wish the fus would be better quality (quality control and quality made !). I don't like to have to play with all those shiming, plug and play should be the way to go.

PeterP
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8 Mar 2022 5:24PM
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frenchfoiler said..



martyman said..





foilgold said..






frenchfoiler said..
Who shim the base plate for the 1095 ? If so how is your board (box on flat spot or some rocker ?)








Been riding Takuma 1095 with two different boards (3 ft11'' and 4 ft 5'') that both have a little tail rocker. Been using one base plate Takuma shim on each of them so far. Rode 3 ft 11 tow/ pump/ downwind board with ski today with carbon old mast and one base place shim. Intially it was about a little above midway in box (box starts 6 inches from back of board, futures box) Had to move back a little bit because it had too much lift for bumps (was tow downwind assist) and put it in box where i place 980 kujura. Normally ride prone 4 ft 6 board (box starts 6.5 inches forward of tail) and have been liking the 1095 slightly forward in boxes of where I place 980 and 750 kujira foils with one base place shim. Around 90kg







what's your take on the 1095?






Well is is a hard question, because I'm super confused...

Coming from Unifoil which I still really like (hyper 170/150) because it is super user friendly (the speed stall on the 150 is unmatch for this type of foil) and have good glide. When I tried the 1095 with the right tuned, it felt really good right away, more glide, more speed and better turning than hyper 150 (not as good on the speed stall but not bad). What I like is how fast it is pumping, you can attack the upcoming wave with a good speed. I like also the fact you can push hard on turns, it holds.
The 1095 feels very quick and responsive, more lively.


Also I'm using Axis ART 1099 for DW only, which I love as the speed/glide is just amazing.

So everytime I go back and forth from Axis to Takuma, because of the difference of the stiffness, it takes me a some time to get used to it.

Also I've dealing with lots of issues with my Takuma fuselage. The fus I had was bent, then I I borrowed my friend fus and I used it for 3 weeks, foiling non stop, I was feeling great, perfectly tuned (takuma shim plate and shim under the front screw stab).
But now I'm on a new fus that Takuma sent me and I can't find the same feeling I had so I wonder which one is different...

I just got a Project Cedrus mast so I can use Takuma/Axis/Uni with the same mast to avoid the difference of the mast stifness.


I really wish the fus would be better quality (quality control and quality made !). I don't like to have to play with all those shiming, plug and play should be the way to go.




I'm under the impression that there are two Takuma fuses: Gen1 and Gen2? I have 2 fuses, and on the same mast the front is 7mm lower than the other, and the back is 1mm lower - enough to throw all my meticolous shimming right out the window.

frenchfoiler
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8 Mar 2022 6:24PM
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PeterP said..

frenchfoiler said..




martyman said..






foilgold said..







frenchfoiler said..
Who shim the base plate for the 1095 ? If so how is your board (box on flat spot or some rocker ?)









Been riding Takuma 1095 with two different boards (3 ft11'' and 4 ft 5'') that both have a little tail rocker. Been using one base plate Takuma shim on each of them so far. Rode 3 ft 11 tow/ pump/ downwind board with ski today with carbon old mast and one base place shim. Intially it was about a little above midway in box (box starts 6 inches from back of board, futures box) Had to move back a little bit because it had too much lift for bumps (was tow downwind assist) and put it in box where i place 980 kujura. Normally ride prone 4 ft 6 board (box starts 6.5 inches forward of tail) and have been liking the 1095 slightly forward in boxes of where I place 980 and 750 kujira foils with one base place shim. Around 90kg








what's your take on the 1095?







Well is is a hard question, because I'm super confused...

Coming from Unifoil which I still really like (hyper 170/150) because it is super user friendly (the speed stall on the 150 is unmatch for this type of foil) and have good glide. When I tried the 1095 with the right tuned, it felt really good right away, more glide, more speed and better turning than hyper 150 (not as good on the speed stall but not bad). What I like is how fast it is pumping, you can attack the upcoming wave with a good speed. I like also the fact you can push hard on turns, it holds.
The 1095 feels very quick and responsive, more lively.


Also I'm using Axis ART 1099 for DW only, which I love as the speed/glide is just amazing.

So everytime I go back and forth from Axis to Takuma, because of the difference of the stiffness, it takes me a some time to get used to it.

Also I've dealing with lots of issues with my Takuma fuselage. The fus I had was bent, then I I borrowed my friend fus and I used it for 3 weeks, foiling non stop, I was feeling great, perfectly tuned (takuma shim plate and shim under the front screw stab).
But now I'm on a new fus that Takuma sent me and I can't find the same feeling I had so I wonder which one is different...

I just got a Project Cedrus mast so I can use Takuma/Axis/Uni with the same mast to avoid the difference of the mast stifness.


I really wish the fus would be better quality (quality control and quality made !). I don't like to have to play with all those shiming, plug and play should be the way to go.





I'm under the impression that there are two Takuma fuses: Gen1 and Gen2? I have 2 fuses, and on the same mast the front is 7mm lower than the other, and the back is 1mm lower - enough to throw all my meticolous shimming right out the window.


Well it is well known that one batch of fusesage was wrong, the factory didn't make it the right way. Those are too soft, it bend easily.
That is the one I had. But now I have a brand new one and it is different than others, so yea I'm super confused...

foilstate
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8 Mar 2022 10:43PM
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frenchfoiler said..

PeterP said..


frenchfoiler said..





martyman said..







foilgold said..








frenchfoiler said..
Who shim the base plate for the 1095 ? If so how is your board (box on flat spot or some rocker ?)










Been riding Takuma 1095 with two different boards (3 ft11'' and 4 ft 5'') that both have a little tail rocker. Been using one base plate Takuma shim on each of them so far. Rode 3 ft 11 tow/ pump/ downwind board with ski today with carbon old mast and one base place shim. Intially it was about a little above midway in box (box starts 6 inches from back of board, futures box) Had to move back a little bit because it had too much lift for bumps (was tow downwind assist) and put it in box where i place 980 kujura. Normally ride prone 4 ft 6 board (box starts 6.5 inches forward of tail) and have been liking the 1095 slightly forward in boxes of where I place 980 and 750 kujira foils with one base place shim. Around 90kg









what's your take on the 1095?








Well is is a hard question, because I'm super confused...

Coming from Unifoil which I still really like (hyper 170/150) because it is super user friendly (the speed stall on the 150 is unmatch for this type of foil) and have good glide. When I tried the 1095 with the right tuned, it felt really good right away, more glide, more speed and better turning than hyper 150 (not as good on the speed stall but not bad). What I like is how fast it is pumping, you can attack the upcoming wave with a good speed. I like also the fact you can push hard on turns, it holds.
The 1095 feels very quick and responsive, more lively.


Also I'm using Axis ART 1099 for DW only, which I love as the speed/glide is just amazing.

So everytime I go back and forth from Axis to Takuma, because of the difference of the stiffness, it takes me a some time to get used to it.

Also I've dealing with lots of issues with my Takuma fuselage. The fus I had was bent, then I I borrowed my friend fus and I used it for 3 weeks, foiling non stop, I was feeling great, perfectly tuned (takuma shim plate and shim under the front screw stab).
But now I'm on a new fus that Takuma sent me and I can't find the same feeling I had so I wonder which one is different...

I just got a Project Cedrus mast so I can use Takuma/Axis/Uni with the same mast to avoid the difference of the mast stifness.


I really wish the fus would be better quality (quality control and quality made !). I don't like to have to play with all those shiming, plug and play should be the way to go.






I'm under the impression that there are two Takuma fuses: Gen1 and Gen2? I have 2 fuses, and on the same mast the front is 7mm lower than the other, and the back is 1mm lower - enough to throw all my meticolous shimming right out the window.



Well it is well known that one batch of fusesage was wrong, the factory didn't make it the right way. Those are too soft, it bend easily.
That is the one I had. But now I have a brand new one and it is different than others, so yea I'm super confused...


I have 2 good fuse from 2021 with me if that can be of any help measuring/comparing. 2 things you can try :- Measure the fuse itself laying on a table, to see the height of the front wing insert and stab insert, I put in as much details as I could there www.instagram.com/p/CW2ylZxIUm7/
- Measure the angle of the fuse once bolted to the mast, and see if that is different from the other one. At some point (2021?) takuma included the ~2.5 degree shimming in the fuselage, but I think since then nothing changed? To be confirmed.

martyman
WA, 314 posts
9 Mar 2022 1:23PM
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frenchfoiler said..

martyman said..



foilgold said..




frenchfoiler said..
Who shim the base plate for the 1095 ? If so how is your board (box on flat spot or some rocker ?)






Been riding Takuma 1095 with two different boards (3 ft11'' and 4 ft 5'') that both have a little tail rocker. Been using one base plate Takuma shim on each of them so far. Rode 3 ft 11 tow/ pump/ downwind board with ski today with carbon old mast and one base place shim. Intially it was about a little above midway in box (box starts 6 inches from back of board, futures box) Had to move back a little bit because it had too much lift for bumps (was tow downwind assist) and put it in box where i place 980 kujura. Normally ride prone 4 ft 6 board (box starts 6.5 inches forward of tail) and have been liking the 1095 slightly forward in boxes of where I place 980 and 750 kujira foils with one base place shim. Around 90kg





what's your take on the 1095?




Well is is a hard question, because I'm super confused...

Coming from Unifoil which I still really like (hyper 170/150) because it is super user friendly (the speed stall on the 150 is unmatch for this type of foil) and have good glide. When I tried the 1095 with the right tuned, it felt really good right away, more glide, more speed and better turning than hyper 150 (not as good on the speed stall but not bad). What I like is how fast it is pumping, you can attack the upcoming wave with a good speed. I like also the fact you can push hard on turns, it holds.
The 1095 feels very quick and responsive, more lively.


Also I'm using Axis ART 1099 for DW only, which I love as the speed/glide is just amazing.

So everytime I go back and forth from Axis to Takuma, because of the difference of the stiffness, it takes me a some time to get used to it.

Also I've dealing with lots of issues with my Takuma fuselage. The fus I had was bent, then I I borrowed my friend fus and I used it for 3 weeks, foiling non stop, I was feeling great, perfectly tuned (takuma shim plate and shim under the front screw stab).
But now I'm on a new fus that Takuma sent me and I can't find the same feeling I had so I wonder which one is different...

I just got a Project Cedrus mast so I can use Takuma/Axis/Uni with the same mast to avoid the difference of the mast stifness.


I really wish the fus would be better quality (quality control and quality made !). I don't like to have to play with all those shiming, plug and play should be the way to go.


The takuma fuselage, both of them, are made with low quality, cheap cast aluminum. Pretty much the lowest grade aluminum they could possibly use which is pretty sad. Create a groundbreaking wing but pair it with terrible quality accessories.

Velocicraptor
528 posts
10 Mar 2022 1:51AM
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martyman said..


frenchfoiler said..



martyman said..





foilgold said..






frenchfoiler said..
Who shim the base plate for the 1095 ? If so how is your board (box on flat spot or some rocker ?)








Been riding Takuma 1095 with two different boards (3 ft11'' and 4 ft 5'') that both have a little tail rocker. Been using one base plate Takuma shim on each of them so far. Rode 3 ft 11 tow/ pump/ downwind board with ski today with carbon old mast and one base place shim. Intially it was about a little above midway in box (box starts 6 inches from back of board, futures box) Had to move back a little bit because it had too much lift for bumps (was tow downwind assist) and put it in box where i place 980 kujura. Normally ride prone 4 ft 6 board (box starts 6.5 inches forward of tail) and have been liking the 1095 slightly forward in boxes of where I place 980 and 750 kujira foils with one base place shim. Around 90kg







what's your take on the 1095?






Well is is a hard question, because I'm super confused...

Coming from Unifoil which I still really like (hyper 170/150) because it is super user friendly (the speed stall on the 150 is unmatch for this type of foil) and have good glide. When I tried the 1095 with the right tuned, it felt really good right away, more glide, more speed and better turning than hyper 150 (not as good on the speed stall but not bad). What I like is how fast it is pumping, you can attack the upcoming wave with a good speed. I like also the fact you can push hard on turns, it holds.
The 1095 feels very quick and responsive, more lively.


Also I'm using Axis ART 1099 for DW only, which I love as the speed/glide is just amazing.

So everytime I go back and forth from Axis to Takuma, because of the difference of the stiffness, it takes me a some time to get used to it.

Also I've dealing with lots of issues with my Takuma fuselage. The fus I had was bent, then I I borrowed my friend fus and I used it for 3 weeks, foiling non stop, I was feeling great, perfectly tuned (takuma shim plate and shim under the front screw stab).
But now I'm on a new fus that Takuma sent me and I can't find the same feeling I had so I wonder which one is different...

I just got a Project Cedrus mast so I can use Takuma/Axis/Uni with the same mast to avoid the difference of the mast stifness.


I really wish the fus would be better quality (quality control and quality made !). I don't like to have to play with all those shiming, plug and play should be the way to go.




The takuma fuselage, both of them, are made with low quality, cheap cast aluminum. Pretty much the lowest grade aluminum they could possibly use which is pretty sad. Create a groundbreaking wing but pair it with terrible quality accessories.



I just bought a 7075 aluminum fuselage for my Takuma foil, with short and standard stabilizer mount threads. Mounts directly to Cedrus. Jim Stringfellow made it and it shipped today. Will post my thoughts when I have a chance to ride it. Supposedly MUCH stronger and only slightly heavier than the standard Takuma fuse.

gorgesailor
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10 Mar 2022 2:31AM
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martyman said..

frenchfoiler said..


martyman said..




foilgold said..





frenchfoiler said..
Who shim the base plate for the 1095 ? If so how is your board (box on flat spot or some rocker ?)







Been riding Takuma 1095 with two different boards (3 ft11'' and 4 ft 5'') that both have a little tail rocker. Been using one base plate Takuma shim on each of them so far. Rode 3 ft 11 tow/ pump/ downwind board with ski today with carbon old mast and one base place shim. Intially it was about a little above midway in box (box starts 6 inches from back of board, futures box) Had to move back a little bit because it had too much lift for bumps (was tow downwind assist) and put it in box where i place 980 kujura. Normally ride prone 4 ft 6 board (box starts 6.5 inches forward of tail) and have been liking the 1095 slightly forward in boxes of where I place 980 and 750 kujira foils with one base place shim. Around 90kg






what's your take on the 1095?





Well is is a hard question, because I'm super confused...

Coming from Unifoil which I still really like (hyper 170/150) because it is super user friendly (the speed stall on the 150 is unmatch for this type of foil) and have good glide. When I tried the 1095 with the right tuned, it felt really good right away, more glide, more speed and better turning than hyper 150 (not as good on the speed stall but not bad). What I like is how fast it is pumping, you can attack the upcoming wave with a good speed. I like also the fact you can push hard on turns, it holds.
The 1095 feels very quick and responsive, more lively.


Also I'm using Axis ART 1099 for DW only, which I love as the speed/glide is just amazing.

So everytime I go back and forth from Axis to Takuma, because of the difference of the stiffness, it takes me a some time to get used to it.

Also I've dealing with lots of issues with my Takuma fuselage. The fus I had was bent, then I I borrowed my friend fus and I used it for 3 weeks, foiling non stop, I was feeling great, perfectly tuned (takuma shim plate and shim under the front screw stab).
But now I'm on a new fus that Takuma sent me and I can't find the same feeling I had so I wonder which one is different...

I just got a Project Cedrus mast so I can use Takuma/Axis/Uni with the same mast to avoid the difference of the mast stifness.


I really wish the fus would be better quality (quality control and quality made !). I don't like to have to play with all those shiming, plug and play should be the way to go.



The takuma fuselage, both of them, are made with low quality, cheap cast aluminum. Pretty much the lowest grade aluminum they could possibly use which is pretty sad. Create a groundbreaking wing but pair it with terrible quality accessories.


Actually not true. The standard 2021/22 Takuma fuse is machined - you can see the tool marks. I believe it is 6061 T8, but could be mistaken about the temper. They did have a bad batch which were improperly tempered & hence soft. Even then, in the US anyway there were VERY few failures. That said, in 2022 they have an entirely new QC team to help post CoVid production get back up to spec.

martyman
WA, 314 posts
10 Mar 2022 10:14AM
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gorgesailor said..

martyman said..


frenchfoiler said..



martyman said..





foilgold said..






frenchfoiler said..
Who shim the base plate for the 1095 ? If so how is your board (box on flat spot or some rocker ?)








Been riding Takuma 1095 with two different boards (3 ft11'' and 4 ft 5'') that both have a little tail rocker. Been using one base plate Takuma shim on each of them so far. Rode 3 ft 11 tow/ pump/ downwind board with ski today with carbon old mast and one base place shim. Intially it was about a little above midway in box (box starts 6 inches from back of board, futures box) Had to move back a little bit because it had too much lift for bumps (was tow downwind assist) and put it in box where i place 980 kujura. Normally ride prone 4 ft 6 board (box starts 6.5 inches forward of tail) and have been liking the 1095 slightly forward in boxes of where I place 980 and 750 kujira foils with one base place shim. Around 90kg







what's your take on the 1095?






Well is is a hard question, because I'm super confused...

Coming from Unifoil which I still really like (hyper 170/150) because it is super user friendly (the speed stall on the 150 is unmatch for this type of foil) and have good glide. When I tried the 1095 with the right tuned, it felt really good right away, more glide, more speed and better turning than hyper 150 (not as good on the speed stall but not bad). What I like is how fast it is pumping, you can attack the upcoming wave with a good speed. I like also the fact you can push hard on turns, it holds.
The 1095 feels very quick and responsive, more lively.


Also I'm using Axis ART 1099 for DW only, which I love as the speed/glide is just amazing.

So everytime I go back and forth from Axis to Takuma, because of the difference of the stiffness, it takes me a some time to get used to it.

Also I've dealing with lots of issues with my Takuma fuselage. The fus I had was bent, then I I borrowed my friend fus and I used it for 3 weeks, foiling non stop, I was feeling great, perfectly tuned (takuma shim plate and shim under the front screw stab).
But now I'm on a new fus that Takuma sent me and I can't find the same feeling I had so I wonder which one is different...

I just got a Project Cedrus mast so I can use Takuma/Axis/Uni with the same mast to avoid the difference of the mast stifness.


I really wish the fus would be better quality (quality control and quality made !). I don't like to have to play with all those shiming, plug and play should be the way to go.




The takuma fuselage, both of them, are made with low quality, cheap cast aluminum. Pretty much the lowest grade aluminum they could possibly use which is pretty sad. Create a groundbreaking wing but pair it with terrible quality accessories.



Actually not true. The standard 2021/22 Takuma fuse is machined - you can see the tool marks. I believe it is 6061 T8, but could be mistaken about the temper. They did have a bad batch which were improperly tempered & hence soft. Even then, in the US anyway there were VERY few failures. That said, in 2022 they have an entirely new QC team to help post CoVid production get back up to spec.


I beg to differ. Ask around, its a know thing. the distributor in the Gorge. was completely bogged down with warantees.I bent one too. I've seen 4 or 5 pictures of them online. I know of another few guys who bent theirs.
The fellow who told me about the quality of aluminum is a distributor of aluminum for industrial purposes and one of the respected people on this site and in Oz. He can jump in if he wants.

Anyways, I had Jim make me a fuselage and its the business. Mine bolts to Axis as I've mentioned on here before.

foilstate
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martyman said..



frenchfoiler said..




martyman said..






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frenchfoiler said..
Who shim the base plate for the 1095 ? If so how is your board (box on flat spot or some rocker ?)









Been riding Takuma 1095 with two different boards (3 ft11'' and 4 ft 5'') that both have a little tail rocker. Been using one base plate Takuma shim on each of them so far. Rode 3 ft 11 tow/ pump/ downwind board with ski today with carbon old mast and one base place shim. Intially it was about a little above midway in box (box starts 6 inches from back of board, futures box) Had to move back a little bit because it had too much lift for bumps (was tow downwind assist) and put it in box where i place 980 kujura. Normally ride prone 4 ft 6 board (box starts 6.5 inches forward of tail) and have been liking the 1095 slightly forward in boxes of where I place 980 and 750 kujira foils with one base place shim. Around 90kg








what's your take on the 1095?







Well is is a hard question, because I'm super confused...

Coming from Unifoil which I still really like (hyper 170/150) because it is super user friendly (the speed stall on the 150 is unmatch for this type of foil) and have good glide. When I tried the 1095 with the right tuned, it felt really good right away, more glide, more speed and better turning than hyper 150 (not as good on the speed stall but not bad). What I like is how fast it is pumping, you can attack the upcoming wave with a good speed. I like also the fact you can push hard on turns, it holds.
The 1095 feels very quick and responsive, more lively.


Also I'm using Axis ART 1099 for DW only, which I love as the speed/glide is just amazing.

So everytime I go back and forth from Axis to Takuma, because of the difference of the stiffness, it takes me a some time to get used to it.

Also I've dealing with lots of issues with my Takuma fuselage. The fus I had was bent, then I I borrowed my friend fus and I used it for 3 weeks, foiling non stop, I was feeling great, perfectly tuned (takuma shim plate and shim under the front screw stab).
But now I'm on a new fus that Takuma sent me and I can't find the same feeling I had so I wonder which one is different...

I just got a Project Cedrus mast so I can use Takuma/Axis/Uni with the same mast to avoid the difference of the mast stifness.


I really wish the fus would be better quality (quality control and quality made !). I don't like to have to play with all those shiming, plug and play should be the way to go.





The takuma fuselage, both of them, are made with low quality, cheap cast aluminum. Pretty much the lowest grade aluminum they could possibly use which is pretty sad. Create a groundbreaking wing but pair it with terrible quality accessories.




Actually not true. The standard 2021/22 Takuma fuse is machined - you can see the tool marks. I believe it is 6061 T8, but could be mistaken about the temper. They did have a bad batch which were improperly tempered & hence soft. Even then, in the US anyway there were VERY few failures. That said, in 2022 they have an entirely new QC team to help post CoVid production get back up to spec.



I beg to differ. Ask around, its a know thing. the distributor in the Gorge. was completely bogged down with warantees.I bent one too. I've seen 4 or 5 pictures of them online. I know of another few guys who bent theirs.
The fellow who told me about the quality of aluminum is a distributor of aluminum for industrial purposes and one of the respected people on this site and in Oz. He can jump in if he wants.

Anyways, I had Jim make me a fuselage and its the business. Mine bolts to Axis as I've mentioned on here before.


How do you make your fuse bolt to axis? Any photos? Super interested.
I talked to Jim, he can't make anything axis as he does not have the measurements. He's got takuma, armstrong, moses, slingshot, gofoil.

frenchfoiler
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10 Mar 2022 3:27PM
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foilstate said..

martyman said..


gorgesailor said..



martyman said..




frenchfoiler said..





martyman said..







foilgold said..








frenchfoiler said..
Who shim the base plate for the 1095 ? If so how is your board (box on flat spot or some rocker ?)










Been riding Takuma 1095 with two different boards (3 ft11'' and 4 ft 5'') that both have a little tail rocker. Been using one base plate Takuma shim on each of them so far. Rode 3 ft 11 tow/ pump/ downwind board with ski today with carbon old mast and one base place shim. Intially it was about a little above midway in box (box starts 6 inches from back of board, futures box) Had to move back a little bit because it had too much lift for bumps (was tow downwind assist) and put it in box where i place 980 kujura. Normally ride prone 4 ft 6 board (box starts 6.5 inches forward of tail) and have been liking the 1095 slightly forward in boxes of where I place 980 and 750 kujira foils with one base place shim. Around 90kg









what's your take on the 1095?








Well is is a hard question, because I'm super confused...

Coming from Unifoil which I still really like (hyper 170/150) because it is super user friendly (the speed stall on the 150 is unmatch for this type of foil) and have good glide. When I tried the 1095 with the right tuned, it felt really good right away, more glide, more speed and better turning than hyper 150 (not as good on the speed stall but not bad). What I like is how fast it is pumping, you can attack the upcoming wave with a good speed. I like also the fact you can push hard on turns, it holds.
The 1095 feels very quick and responsive, more lively.


Also I'm using Axis ART 1099 for DW only, which I love as the speed/glide is just amazing.

So everytime I go back and forth from Axis to Takuma, because of the difference of the stiffness, it takes me a some time to get used to it.

Also I've dealing with lots of issues with my Takuma fuselage. The fus I had was bent, then I I borrowed my friend fus and I used it for 3 weeks, foiling non stop, I was feeling great, perfectly tuned (takuma shim plate and shim under the front screw stab).
But now I'm on a new fus that Takuma sent me and I can't find the same feeling I had so I wonder which one is different...

I just got a Project Cedrus mast so I can use Takuma/Axis/Uni with the same mast to avoid the difference of the mast stifness.


I really wish the fus would be better quality (quality control and quality made !). I don't like to have to play with all those shiming, plug and play should be the way to go.






The takuma fuselage, both of them, are made with low quality, cheap cast aluminum. Pretty much the lowest grade aluminum they could possibly use which is pretty sad. Create a groundbreaking wing but pair it with terrible quality accessories.





Actually not true. The standard 2021/22 Takuma fuse is machined - you can see the tool marks. I believe it is 6061 T8, but could be mistaken about the temper. They did have a bad batch which were improperly tempered & hence soft. Even then, in the US anyway there were VERY few failures. That said, in 2022 they have an entirely new QC team to help post CoVid production get back up to spec.




I beg to differ. Ask around, its a know thing. the distributor in the Gorge. was completely bogged down with warantees.I bent one too. I've seen 4 or 5 pictures of them online. I know of another few guys who bent theirs.
The fellow who told me about the quality of aluminum is a distributor of aluminum for industrial purposes and one of the respected people on this site and in Oz. He can jump in if he wants.

Anyways, I had Jim make me a fuselage and its the business. Mine bolts to Axis as I've mentioned on here before.



How do you make your fuse bolt to axis? Any photos? Super interested.
I talked to Jim, he can't make anything axis as he does not have the measurements. He's got takuma, armstrong, moses, slingshot, gofoil.


How much for Jim's Takuma Fuselage ?

foilstate
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10 Mar 2022 4:38PM
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frenchfoiler said..

foilstate said..


martyman said..



gorgesailor said..




martyman said..





frenchfoiler said..






martyman said..








foilgold said..









frenchfoiler said..
Who shim the base plate for the 1095 ? If so how is your board (box on flat spot or some rocker ?)











Been riding Takuma 1095 with two different boards (3 ft11'' and 4 ft 5'') that both have a little tail rocker. Been using one base plate Takuma shim on each of them so far. Rode 3 ft 11 tow/ pump/ downwind board with ski today with carbon old mast and one base place shim. Intially it was about a little above midway in box (box starts 6 inches from back of board, futures box) Had to move back a little bit because it had too much lift for bumps (was tow downwind assist) and put it in box where i place 980 kujura. Normally ride prone 4 ft 6 board (box starts 6.5 inches forward of tail) and have been liking the 1095 slightly forward in boxes of where I place 980 and 750 kujira foils with one base place shim. Around 90kg










what's your take on the 1095?









Well is is a hard question, because I'm super confused...

Coming from Unifoil which I still really like (hyper 170/150) because it is super user friendly (the speed stall on the 150 is unmatch for this type of foil) and have good glide. When I tried the 1095 with the right tuned, it felt really good right away, more glide, more speed and better turning than hyper 150 (not as good on the speed stall but not bad). What I like is how fast it is pumping, you can attack the upcoming wave with a good speed. I like also the fact you can push hard on turns, it holds.
The 1095 feels very quick and responsive, more lively.


Also I'm using Axis ART 1099 for DW only, which I love as the speed/glide is just amazing.

So everytime I go back and forth from Axis to Takuma, because of the difference of the stiffness, it takes me a some time to get used to it.

Also I've dealing with lots of issues with my Takuma fuselage. The fus I had was bent, then I I borrowed my friend fus and I used it for 3 weeks, foiling non stop, I was feeling great, perfectly tuned (takuma shim plate and shim under the front screw stab).
But now I'm on a new fus that Takuma sent me and I can't find the same feeling I had so I wonder which one is different...

I just got a Project Cedrus mast so I can use Takuma/Axis/Uni with the same mast to avoid the difference of the mast stifness.


I really wish the fus would be better quality (quality control and quality made !). I don't like to have to play with all those shiming, plug and play should be the way to go.







The takuma fuselage, both of them, are made with low quality, cheap cast aluminum. Pretty much the lowest grade aluminum they could possibly use which is pretty sad. Create a groundbreaking wing but pair it with terrible quality accessories.






Actually not true. The standard 2021/22 Takuma fuse is machined - you can see the tool marks. I believe it is 6061 T8, but could be mistaken about the temper. They did have a bad batch which were improperly tempered & hence soft. Even then, in the US anyway there were VERY few failures. That said, in 2022 they have an entirely new QC team to help post CoVid production get back up to spec.





I beg to differ. Ask around, its a know thing. the distributor in the Gorge. was completely bogged down with warantees.I bent one too. I've seen 4 or 5 pictures of them online. I know of another few guys who bent theirs.
The fellow who told me about the quality of aluminum is a distributor of aluminum for industrial purposes and one of the respected people on this site and in Oz. He can jump in if he wants.

Anyways, I had Jim make me a fuselage and its the business. Mine bolts to Axis as I've mentioned on here before.




How do you make your fuse bolt to axis? Any photos? Super interested.
I talked to Jim, he can't make anything axis as he does not have the measurements. He's got takuma, armstrong, moses, slingshot, gofoil.



How much for Jim's Takuma Fuselage ?


Depends on the fuse I guess but 300ish for the takuma one I asked, plus shipping and import tax of course

gorgesailor
598 posts
11 Mar 2022 2:40AM
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martyman said..

gorgesailor said..


martyman said..



frenchfoiler said..




martyman said..






foilgold said..







frenchfoiler said..
Who shim the base plate for the 1095 ? If so how is your board (box on flat spot or some rocker ?)









Been riding Takuma 1095 with two different boards (3 ft11'' and 4 ft 5'') that both have a little tail rocker. Been using one base plate Takuma shim on each of them so far. Rode 3 ft 11 tow/ pump/ downwind board with ski today with carbon old mast and one base place shim. Intially it was about a little above midway in box (box starts 6 inches from back of board, futures box) Had to move back a little bit because it had too much lift for bumps (was tow downwind assist) and put it in box where i place 980 kujura. Normally ride prone 4 ft 6 board (box starts 6.5 inches forward of tail) and have been liking the 1095 slightly forward in boxes of where I place 980 and 750 kujira foils with one base place shim. Around 90kg








what's your take on the 1095?







Well is is a hard question, because I'm super confused...

Coming from Unifoil which I still really like (hyper 170/150) because it is super user friendly (the speed stall on the 150 is unmatch for this type of foil) and have good glide. When I tried the 1095 with the right tuned, it felt really good right away, more glide, more speed and better turning than hyper 150 (not as good on the speed stall but not bad). What I like is how fast it is pumping, you can attack the upcoming wave with a good speed. I like also the fact you can push hard on turns, it holds.
The 1095 feels very quick and responsive, more lively.


Also I'm using Axis ART 1099 for DW only, which I love as the speed/glide is just amazing.

So everytime I go back and forth from Axis to Takuma, because of the difference of the stiffness, it takes me a some time to get used to it.

Also I've dealing with lots of issues with my Takuma fuselage. The fus I had was bent, then I I borrowed my friend fus and I used it for 3 weeks, foiling non stop, I was feeling great, perfectly tuned (takuma shim plate and shim under the front screw stab).
But now I'm on a new fus that Takuma sent me and I can't find the same feeling I had so I wonder which one is different...

I just got a Project Cedrus mast so I can use Takuma/Axis/Uni with the same mast to avoid the difference of the mast stifness.


I really wish the fus would be better quality (quality control and quality made !). I don't like to have to play with all those shiming, plug and play should be the way to go.





The takuma fuselage, both of them, are made with low quality, cheap cast aluminum. Pretty much the lowest grade aluminum they could possibly use which is pretty sad. Create a groundbreaking wing but pair it with terrible quality accessories.




Actually not true. The standard 2021/22 Takuma fuse is machined - you can see the tool marks. I believe it is 6061 T8, but could be mistaken about the temper. They did have a bad batch which were improperly tempered & hence soft. Even then, in the US anyway there were VERY few failures. That said, in 2022 they have an entirely new QC team to help post CoVid production get back up to spec.



I beg to differ. Ask around, its a know thing. the distributor in the Gorge. was completely bogged down with warantees.I bent one too. I've seen 4 or 5 pictures of them online. I know of another few guys who bent theirs.
The fellow who told me about the quality of aluminum is a distributor of aluminum for industrial purposes and one of the respected people on this site and in Oz. He can jump in if he wants.

Anyways, I had Jim make me a fuselage and its the business. Mine bolts to Axis as I've mentioned on here before.


your funny Marty!

toppleover
QLD, 2033 posts
13 Mar 2022 6:56PM
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toppleover said..
Pic of the KD13" above the 178 below

Pic below of the Mike Pedigo shorty tail over the KD13 with holes lined up.


The MP shorty tail is my favourite atm, it does imo loose a little bit of pump and drive through turns compared to the KD13 but in small waves really loosens up the 1210 & 980 when shimmed correctly.




Super helpful. Thank you! How are you shimming the KD?



Flat shim for 980 (neutral) & negative 1mm for 1210 (more lift), I only shim to get them to turn how I like it.


Sorry that was the wrong info, for the KD13" I use a +1 or +1.5 (red Takuma shims) for less lift.

Info above was for the Pedigo tail.

Velocicraptor
528 posts
15 Mar 2022 11:13PM
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I haven't ever seen an MFC fuselage in person, but it looks pretty similar to the Takuma fuselage. By any chance are these compatible (could you use an MFC fuse/mast with a Takuma front wing)? Is it close enough to modify? Longshot, but they look similar, so thought I would ask.

gorgesailor
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16 Mar 2022 3:15AM
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I haven't ever seen an MFC fuselage in person, but it looks pretty similar to the Takuma fuselage. By any chance are these compatible (could you use an MFC fuse/mast with a Takuma front wing)? Is it close enough to modify? Longshot, but they look similar, so thought I would ask.



I know it is not the same/compatible, but not sure how much effort to modify. What are you trying to do?

Alysum
NSW, 1024 posts
17 Mar 2022 9:33AM
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Does anyone have the takuma fuselage 2021 AND 2020 and able to share a photo of the differences side by side?

It appears that I got an old 2020 fuselage which won't fit my mast.

I believe the 2021 is the old which also induces a slight 3deg forward angle to the mast.

adamscianniman
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22 Mar 2022 5:03PM
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Sure is amazing...

Has anyone in AU tried to dockstart the 1440?


yes mate me and my brother have done a few dock starting sessions on the 1440 in NSW. my brother has done it more than me. im assuming its extremely good for purpose because it only took me about 10 goes to successfully do it.

gorgesailor
598 posts
23 Mar 2022 1:08AM
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Alysum said..
Does anyone have the takuma fuselage 2021 AND 2020 and able to share a photo of the differences side by side?

It appears that I got an old 2020 fuselage which won't fit my mast.

I believe the 2021 is the old which also induces a slight 3deg forward angle to the mast.


Hey Alysum,

Here is a pic showing the most obvious difference(for identification: On the tail of the fuse the 2020 rounds off more, whereas the 2021/22 has a sort of sharp "keel" right of the end. Obviously the more important differences are hard to see & that is the shape of the mast "pocket". The 2021 mast was beefed up & has a slightly wider cord, so the 2020 fuse will not fit. In addition, as you have indicated the floor of the 2021 mast pocket is also slanted - inducing a slight rake to the fuselage.


Alysum
NSW, 1024 posts
24 Mar 2022 1:31PM
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gorgesailor said..

Alysum said..
Does anyone have the takuma fuselage 2021 AND 2020 and able to share a photo of the differences side by side?

It appears that I got an old 2020 fuselage which won't fit my mast.

I believe the 2021 is the old which also induces a slight 3deg forward angle to the mast.



Hey Alysum,

Here is a pic showing the most obvious difference(for identification: On the tail of the fuse the 2020 rounds off more, whereas the 2021/22 has a sort of sharp "keel" right of the end. Obviously the more important differences are hard to see & that is the shape of the mast "pocket". The 2021 mast was beefed up & has a slightly wider cord, so the 2020 fuse will not fit. In addition, as you have indicated the floor of the 2021 mast pocket is also slanted - inducing a slight rake to the fuselage.



Thanks, yes that's what I discovered too when I had the 2 side by side. The 2020 is also 110g heavier and seems stronger ?

2020 also fitted the 1095 wing perfectly without any movement.

I exchanged the fuse to the 2021 one and unfortunately the 1095 moves a lot before screws are tightened, it seems to be a common issue with Takuma...

Had my first ride on the 1095/178 - wow it's a very different riding technique to what I'm used to. Much more back footed.

With the 2021 angle it induces, it obviously has too much nose down on my board.

Where can I buy some plate shims in AU if any ?

Hwy1North
129 posts
24 Mar 2022 11:08AM
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Alysum said..

gorgesailor said..


Alysum said..
Does anyone have the takuma fuselage 2021 AND 2020 and able to share a photo of the differences side by side?

It appears that I got an old 2020 fuselage which won't fit my mast.

I believe the 2021 is the old which also induces a slight 3deg forward angle to the mast.




Hey Alysum,

Here is a pic showing the most obvious difference(for identification: On the tail of the fuse the 2020 rounds off more, whereas the 2021/22 has a sort of sharp "keel" right of the end. Obviously the more important differences are hard to see & that is the shape of the mast "pocket". The 2021 mast was beefed up & has a slightly wider cord, so the 2020 fuse will not fit. In addition, as you have indicated the floor of the 2021 mast pocket is also slanted - inducing a slight rake to the fuselage.



Thanks, yes that's what I discovered too when I had the 2 side by side. The 2020 is also 110g heavier and seems stronger ?

2020 also fitted the 1095 wing perfectly without any movement.

I exchanged the fuse to the 2021 one and unfortunately the 1095 moves a lot before screws are tightened, it seems to be a common issue with Takuma...

Had my first ride on the 1095/178 - wow it's a very different riding technique to what I'm used to. Much more back footed.

With the 2021 angle it induces, it obviously has too much nose down on my board.

Where can I buy some plate shims in AU if any ?


Alysum,

Go to your auto parts store... www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/Foiling/Easy-foil-wedges?page=1

Try putting a shim/washer under the front stab screw. Makes the 1095 much more front footed. (Though not better IMO.) If you are used to running a Kujira 980, for example, fairly far back in the track, I find the 1095 can be run a good 1/2" to an inch farther forward. This will also make it less back footed.

Alysum
NSW, 1024 posts
24 Mar 2022 2:17PM
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Hwy1North said..

Alysum said..


gorgesailor said..



Alysum said..
Does anyone have the takuma fuselage 2021 AND 2020 and able to share a photo of the differences side by side?

It appears that I got an old 2020 fuselage which won't fit my mast.

I believe the 2021 is the old which also induces a slight 3deg forward angle to the mast.





Hey Alysum,

Here is a pic showing the most obvious difference(for identification: On the tail of the fuse the 2020 rounds off more, whereas the 2021/22 has a sort of sharp "keel" right of the end. Obviously the more important differences are hard to see & that is the shape of the mast "pocket". The 2021 mast was beefed up & has a slightly wider cord, so the 2020 fuse will not fit. In addition, as you have indicated the floor of the 2021 mast pocket is also slanted - inducing a slight rake to the fuselage.




Thanks, yes that's what I discovered too when I had the 2 side by side. The 2020 is also 110g heavier and seems stronger ?

2020 also fitted the 1095 wing perfectly without any movement.

I exchanged the fuse to the 2021 one and unfortunately the 1095 moves a lot before screws are tightened, it seems to be a common issue with Takuma...

Had my first ride on the 1095/178 - wow it's a very different riding technique to what I'm used to. Much more back footed.

With the 2021 angle it induces, it obviously has too much nose down on my board.

Where can I buy some plate shims in AU if any ?



Alysum,

Go to your auto parts store... www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/Foiling/Easy-foil-wedges?page=1

Try putting a shim/washer under the front stab screw. Makes the 1095 much more front footed. (Though not better IMO.) If you are used to running a Kujira 980, for example, fairly far back in the track, I find the 1095 can be run a good 1/2" to an inch farther forward. This will also make it less back footed.


Thank you. Yes I definitely need to move the mast track forward, I just left it in the same spot as where I usually ride Axis ART (half way).



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